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re: Dabo Swinney doesn't think Ohio State should make the playoff
Posted on 12/12/20 at 7:53 pm to JayWhite
Posted on 12/12/20 at 7:53 pm to JayWhite
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I'm not simple enough to put random, objective restrictions on an absolutely subjective process.
I’m not even putting a specific number. I’m saying the committee should look at the resumes and realize that “wow five fewer games is a lot less”.
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Concede what? I think you're lying. No talking your way out of that.
I don’t think you know what that phrase means. I told you something that hurts your argument so you accuse me of lying because that’s all you can do besides conceding.
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So your problem is that I've said something that isn't positive about your team? Really? Even if it's true, you're going to cry about that?
Once again you are deflecting from my main point. I don’t care if you talk shite about Alabama. Let me try again to put this into easier terms for you.
Not a hypocrite take - Alabama didn’t deserve to be in 2011/2017. Therefore OSU also doesn’t deserve in. Or Alabama deserved in 2011/2017 so does OSU now. If you’re mixing both, which you are, you’re a hypocrite. I also mentioned Clemson too and I certainly don’t like them, so there goes your little argument.
quote:Once again don’t want to concede I see. And you once again are accusing me of things you’re doing. What does “every year “ mean? It means this year and the years before. The years before included (another word you don’t know the definition of) the 13-0 seasons. So in your comparison you were including those years to compare them with OSU’s 6-0 season.
The specific statement? Are you fricking serious? Of course if you take what you want and ignore the rest you'll get what you're after.
And once again, either way does it matter? Even if you had this year included in the statement, it still would’ve both the 10 and 13 game seasons.
quote:No Clemson would’ve earned their way in but OSU didn’t thanks to the Big10.
So Clemson has a loss and Ohio State played fewer games. Sounds like we should let them settle it on the field. That's kind of the point.
quote:Nope but once again arguing semantics. The point is we’re both here arguing whether or not OSU deserves in. If you weren’t, you would have just said they’re going to be in and moved on.
So it means exactly what I said it means. Like I said.
quote:Five games is too much difference sorry you can’t comprehend. In real life, lines have to be drawn somewhere. You would agree 3 losses is too much but one loss isn’t. That’s arbitrary as well. But you complain about it in this situation.
8-1? 7-1? What about 6-1? One more game, after all.
quote:I’d be saying the same thing if it was any team. Six games isn’t enough. You seem to have bad reading comprehension. No where did I say I’m only saying this because they’re OSU. They’re just the team in this situation right now. Just like you claim not to dislike any team yet continue to talking about Clemson and Bama not be deserving. I’m doing the same. I have zero reason to hate or like OSU.
This is you admitting that you're here to bitch about it being Ohio State.
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Posted on 12/12/20 at 7:55 pm to 1BamaRTR
Haven’t you two realized this circular argument could go on fifty pages more and nothing will change your minds?
Posted on 12/12/20 at 7:56 pm to VABuckeye
Yes 
Posted on 12/12/20 at 7:56 pm to VABuckeye
quote:Thank you! Please you two. Take this elsewhere!
Haven’t you two realized this circular argument could go on fifty pages more and nothing will change your minds?
Posted on 12/12/20 at 8:06 pm to tigeroarz1
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Thank you! Please you two. Take this elsewhere!
Fine
It was feeling weird defending Dabo and Clemson anyway. Now, that’s a team I really don’t like.
Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:13 am to 1BamaRTR
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I’m not even putting a specific number. I’m saying the committee should look at the resumes and realize that “wow five fewer games is a lot less”.
You did exactly that. Several times.
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I don’t think you know what that phrase means. I told you something that hurts your argument so you accuse me of lying because that’s all you can do besides conceding.
It means you're trying to avoid talking about anything that displays your hypocrisy.
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Once again you are deflecting from my main point. I don’t care if you talk shite about Alabama. Let me try again to put this into easier terms for you.
Not a hypocrite take - Alabama didn’t deserve to be in 2011/2017. Therefore OSU also doesn’t deserve in. Or Alabama deserved in 2011/2017 so does OSU now. If you’re mixing both, which you are, you’re a hypocrite. I also mentioned Clemson too and I certainly don’t like them, so there goes your little argument.
I'm not mixing them. I'm literally bringing them in to show why you're a hypocrite. I'm sure that during both of those games you sat around complaining about Bama not being there. I'm sure you let everyone know that those championships aren't legit.
If you don't, you're a hypocrite.
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Once again don’t want to concede I see. And you once again are accusing me of things you’re doing. What does “every year “ mean? It means this year and the years before. The years before included (another word you don’t know the definition of) the 13-0 seasons. So in your comparison you were including those years to compare them with OSU’s 6-0 season.
And once again, either way does it matter? Even if you had this year included in the statement, it still would’ve both the 10 and 13 game seasons.
What does a specific reference to games that happened in 2020 mean?
They didn't play 13 games this year.
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No Clemson would’ve earned their way in but OSU didn’t thanks to the Big10.
You just said that was basically the difference. Seems like they should play and find out.
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Nope but once again arguing semantics. The point is we’re both here arguing whether or not OSU deserves in. If you weren’t, you would have just said they’re going to be in and moved on.
I'm here to discuss what Dabo said. You're the one whining about Ohio State and the committee decisions.
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Five games is too much difference sorry you can’t comprehend. In real life, lines have to be drawn somewhere. You would agree 3 losses is too much but one loss isn’t. That’s arbitrary as well. But you complain about it in this situation.
So why not 4? Or 6?
Because it's arbitrary and it suits your agenda.
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I’d be saying the same thing if it was any team. Six games isn’t enough. You seem to have bad reading comprehension. No where did I say I’m only saying this because they’re OSU. They’re just the team in this situation right now. Just like you claim not to dislike any team yet continue to talking about Clemson and Bama not be deserving. I’m doing the same. I have zero reason to hate or like OSU.
No you wouldn't, because it's a near certainty that weren't saying the same thing in 2011 or 2017.
And who else should I be talking about? Should we talk about how Vanderbilt doesn't deserve a playoff spot? Maybe you need me to make an argument against Kansas instead?
Posted on 12/14/20 at 7:00 pm to JayWhite
Herbie
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"You think Alabama would be left out of the discussion about the best four teams? Hell no. Of course not. Clemson — if they played five games and they missed Duke, they missed that Duke game, they missed Georgia Tech and whoever else — you think we'd be sitting there and saying, '(Quarterback) Trevor Lawrence and Clemson? They didn't play enough games. They're not one of the best four.' Of course not.
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"But I just think it's very hypocritical to talk about Ohio State playing six games when, if Alabama or Clemson played six, it would not be a discussion for those schools or those coaches. They would have no problem. If (Clemson head coach) Dabo (Swinney) played six games, you think Dabo would be like, 'Well, we shouldn't be in it. We only played six. Not fair to the rest of those teams that played 11. We're going to back out.' He wouldn't do that. He would be like, 'Hey, it's not our fault we played six. We played the cards that we were dealt. We played who we played and we beat 'em. So we should be in there.' That's what he would think if it happened to him. So I think it's hypocritical."
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