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Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:34 pm to MJRuffalo
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Who else thinks the PAC-10 is good you ask. The experts in Vegas do. 5 teams ranked in the top-25.
I count three in the AP (for the first time ALL year. and what does Vegas have to do with rankings?
This post was edited on 11/18/08 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:37 pm to wahoocs
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but your friend has lost me.
Friend? Who?
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It was a torn ligament, not muscle.
Oh shite! You got me! It was an injury.
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LSU played with an injured QB for much of last season, and played without him twice, including their championship game. In that game, their backup sustained a cut finger on his throwing hand that required multiple stitches.
Relevance to Oregon's schedule?
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We still won the game and the NC.
I had no clue.
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played without him twice, including their championship game
MTSU and Tennessee<UCLA and OSU. With our injured QB we still lost 2 games.
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In that game, their backup sustained a cut finger on his throwing hand that required multiple stitches.
So us winning that game had nothing to do with an INT returned for a TD and a redzone INT? RP didn't play defense.
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They couldn't get a fricking first down
Actually in the 3 games after Dixon's injury they got 58.
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last time I checked, Dixon didn't play on defense.
No but he played QB and didn't play at all after he got hurt. Hurt Starting QB>Hurt Benched QB
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:38 pm to The Ramp
what do rankings have to do with who is better?
Answer is absolutely nothing.
Sagarin's predictor also has 5 PAC-10 teams in the top-25.
Here is one for you. All the rankings that you are putting this worth into have Texas Tech rated higher than Oklahoma. Vegas and Sagarin both have OU ranked higher. We will see on Saturday who is correct.
Answer is absolutely nothing.
Sagarin's predictor also has 5 PAC-10 teams in the top-25.
Here is one for you. All the rankings that you are putting this worth into have Texas Tech rated higher than Oklahoma. Vegas and Sagarin both have OU ranked higher. We will see on Saturday who is correct.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:40 pm to MJRuffalo
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We will see on Saturday who is correct.
are they playing on a neutral field?
This post was edited on 11/18/08 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:43 pm to PortCityTiger24
nope.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:43 pm to MJRuffalo
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what do rankings have to do with who is better?
Answer is absolutely nothing.
wait...sportswriters from ALL over the nation vote for who's better and only three pacten teams come to mind out of 25. think about it....
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Sagarin's predictor also has 5 PAC-10 teams in the top-25.
wait...i thought rankins had "absolutely nothing" to do with who is better. make up your mind. btw-LMAO@sagarin and his "expert vegas" poll.
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Here is one for you. All the rankings that you are putting this worth into have Texas Tech rated higher than Oklahoma. Vegas and Sagarin both have OU ranked higher. We will see on Saturday who is correct.
are u comparing who's better between the #2 team and the #5 team with no pacten teams being ranked? seriously dude...you're grasping at straws. Do you REALLY believe some of the stuff you're posting?
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:47 pm to The Ramp
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wait...sportswriters from ALL over the nation vote for who's better and only three pacten teams come to mind out of 25. think about it....
The vast majority of sportswriters don't know shite.
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wait...i thought rankins had "absolutely nothing" to do with who is better. make up your mind. btw-LMAO@sagarin and his "expert vegas" poll.
Major difference. Sagarin's predictor is a bias free computer model using relevant data to suggest who is better. The oddsmakers in Vegas are the true experts when it comes to deciding who is better than who.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:52 pm to MJRuffalo
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what do rankings have to do with who is better?
More than MJRuffalo's opinion of who is better.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:52 pm to Excelsior
I don't know where the hell you're going with this, and I really don't care.
LSU's success was not dependent on one player.
That's the point. Not Oregon's schedule, not Tennessee's loss to UCLA or their victory against Georgia.
Our defense stepping up in the SECCG is also the point. We still won. Flynn, RP, whoever.
I am not wasting my time with a goofball who thinks Oregon and Oregon St. are programs on a level with LSU.
I am dumber for having responded to you and will make the proper note.
LSU's success was not dependent on one player.
That's the point. Not Oregon's schedule, not Tennessee's loss to UCLA or their victory against Georgia.
Our defense stepping up in the SECCG is also the point. We still won. Flynn, RP, whoever.
I am not wasting my time with a goofball who thinks Oregon and Oregon St. are programs on a level with LSU.
I am dumber for having responded to you and will make the proper note.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 12:54 pm to wahoocs
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I am not wasting my time with a goofball who thinks Oregon and Oregon St. are programs on a level with LSU.
PLEASE show me where I said that. A guy said what has Oregon/OSU done in the last decade, I said Oregon was damn close to a NC last year and there is no denying that.
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I am dumber for having responded to you and will make the proper note.
Says the guy that can't comprehend my post. Nice.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 1:17 pm to MJRuffalo
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The vast majority of sportswriters don't know shite
and pacone fans do?
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Major difference. Sagarin's predictor is a bias free computer model using relevant data to suggest who is better. The oddsmakers in Vegas are the true experts when it comes to deciding who is better than who.
How many games does a computer watch? LMAO
I guess you love the BCS system then?
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Major difference. Sagarin's predictor is a bias free computer model using relevant data to suggest who is better. The oddsmakers in Vegas are the true experts when it comes to deciding who is better than who.
what do oddsmakers have to do with Sagarin's ratings? and what do oddsmakers (who make ODDS based on who bets what) have to do with pacone teams not getting ranked? in the only pacone vs sec team game i can think of this year, i believe tenn was picked by vegas to win. this is just too easy.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 1:21 pm to The Ramp
You asked the question of who thinks the PAC-10 is good. I answered with relavant sources while you cite dipshits.
Fact is that the PAC-10 has owned the SEC this decade, and the PAC-10 has a winning record vs the SEC since it's modern format of 12 teams formed in 1992 despite the Fact that the SEC has held homefield more often than the PAC-10.
Fact is that the PAC-10 has owned the SEC this decade, and the PAC-10 has a winning record vs the SEC since it's modern format of 12 teams formed in 1992 despite the Fact that the SEC has held homefield more often than the PAC-10.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 1:26 pm to MJRuffalo
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You asked the question of who thinks the PAC-10 is good. I answered with relavant sources while you cite dipshits.
A computer things Pac-10 is good? I cite "dipshits" yet you cite a computer which has nothing to do with Vegas or oddsmakers?
How many of the Pac Ten teams besides USC has beat the SEC? Has any of our good teams (UGA, LSU, Flor,etc.) lost to Pac Ten teams? Just because OSU hasn't won a bowl game vs SEC doesn't make them a bad team. They would do well in the SEC as would USC. The fact that Ore beat MSU several years ago and UCLA beat a horrible Tenn team means nothing now. I guess Mountain West owns the Pac Ten for that skewed logic.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 1:28 pm to wahoocs
Still waiting for that info on where I said Oregon and OSU are better than LSU wahoocs...
Posted on 11/18/08 at 1:29 pm to The Ramp
Actually the Sagarin system is used by Vegas oddsmakers.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 1:32 pm to The Ramp
Lets see the SEC East champion last season lost to the 2nd to last place PAC-10 team. The matchups have been relatively even for the most part. Many of the SEC wins are your top teams vs our bottom feeders. With the exception of LSU over last place Arizona, the bottom half PAC-10 teams fair better vs the SEC, than do the bottom half SEC teams.
If you do not believe me do a little research and you will see.
If you do not believe me do a little research and you will see.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 1:35 pm to MJRuffalo
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Actually the Sagarin system is used by Vegas oddsmakers.
actually vegas lays bets on who will bet. that's why the line moves throughout the week. if sagarin's computers are so smart, why did they pick Tenn the favorite over UCLA in the only matchup this year?
Sagarin is a joke. It doesn't watch any games, it doesn't know who's hurt, it doesn't look at rivalry games, it doesn't know who's hot/not, it doesn't even factor in where the game is played. It and the BCS needs to go.
You never answered my question. If you like the computer so much, you must love the BCS?
Posted on 11/18/08 at 1:39 pm to The Ramp
Are you really this stupid?? Computer models become more accurate as more data is present. Anyway do you really want to bet on who wins more Sagarin favorites or Sagarin underdogs? You would lose big-time.
I hate the bcs. I think Sagarin's predictor is the only decent computer model out there and that one is not even used in the bcs since MOV is used in it's calculations. I do not think the Sagarin computer is the end all be all by any means though. I do believe that it is more relevant than the current polls we now have.
I hate the bcs. I think Sagarin's predictor is the only decent computer model out there and that one is not even used in the bcs since MOV is used in it's calculations. I do not think the Sagarin computer is the end all be all by any means though. I do believe that it is more relevant than the current polls we now have.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 1:46 pm to MJRuffalo
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Lets see the SEC East champion last season lost to the 2nd to last place PAC-10 team.
What the hell does last year have to do with this year? Just like when USC beat Aub in 03 yet think you could have beat the 04 Aub team. TWO different teams. Why can't Pacten fans understand this?
I did look up the over-all stats and only four teams have losing records vs pacten teams. USC doesn't even have a winning record vs the SEC.It will take 24 more games for the PacTen to even catch up.
You're gonna have to give me some beter stats than your jaded opinion. Every sports magazine/website in the country thinks the pacten is the fourth best conference in the nation. I can show you links to that.
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