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Could Saban return to the NFL?

Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:22 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:22 pm
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Usually, the chatter about Nick Saban being unhappy happens at the point on the calendar approaching the opening of the window for getting more money from his current employer. The near-annual accounts of Saban’s misery have arisen sooner than usual.

Jason McIntyre of The Big Lead shares an account that Saban may be on the way out of Alabama, due to apparent misery and frustration. (Then again, Saban isn’t happy unless he’s miserable and frustrated.)

If Saban is somehow trying to position himself for his inevitable next job, it’s not a surprise. The excellent biography of Saban from Monte Burke paints the picture of a tortured perfectionist who still strives for the approval of a long-deceased father, who apparently was even more tortured and even more of a perfectionist. Saban has achieved ridiculous success at the college level, winning national championships at LSU and Alabama and almost making Crimson Tide fans drop their collection of houndstooth hats into the “yard sale” box.

Faced with the choice of trying to climb once again the same mountain he has mastered on many occasions or taking care of unfinished business — like the spots Saban used to obsessively remove while washing cars at his father’s filling station — Saban could choose a return to the NFL.

Sure, Saban was miserable in Miami, leaving after only two seasons. But he was miserable because the salary cap and the draft kept him from stacking the deck the way that his recruiting skills allow him collect as many first-round picks as he can convince to come to Tuscaloosa. What if he were hired by a team that already had a stacked deck at the most important position in the game?

Bob Kravitz of WTHR recently wrote that the pressure is indeed on Colts coach Chuck Pagano in 2015. Adding to the pressure has to be the reality that the presence of quarterback Andrew Luck would allow owner Jim Irsay to lure any coach he wanted to town. If Irsay wanted Saban, would Saban listen?

Saban would want control over the operation, which means that G.M. Ryan Grigson would have to be fired, or at least neutered. An effort by Irsay to hire Saban in 1998 (the year Peyton Manning was drafted) went nowhere because G.M. Bill Polian wouldn’t have given up his authority.

With Luck running the offense and Saban crafting his NFL-style defense, it could work, and it could work well.

Saban clearly has what it takes to coach at the NFL level. As former LSU quarterback Matt Mauck told Monte Burke for the unauthorized Saban bio, “His meetings were so focused. I had Mike Shanahan and Jeff Fisher in the pros, and their meetings were jokes compared to Saban’s.”

Saban’s recruiting skills also overshadow his eye for talent.

“He’s like someone who can identify a Thoroughbred racing horse at a young age,” former Saban assistant Glen Mason told Burke. “He can just look at a high school player and say, ‘That guy is a winner.'”

At LSU, Saban spotted a high-school player named Jacob Hester, an undersized, two-star prospect. Saban turned Hester into a contributor at the college level, and Hester went on to play six years in the NFL.

For the Colts, the defense continues to be the problem. Who better than Saban, the guy Irsay wanted to hire at the outset of Peyton Manning’s career, to engineer the kind of defense to go along with the kind of quarterback who already can run the offense like a coach on the field?

There’s a long way to go before Saban would ever declare publicly that he’s not going to be the Indianapolis coach. But if Saban ever were going to return to the NFL, it surely would happen only with a team that has a franchise quarterback. And there’s no better team with a franchise quarterback than a team with a franchise quarterback on the front end of the prime of his career.

In the NFL, the team that best fits that description right now is the Colts.



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Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:24 pm to
Another season and another rumor about Saban leaving
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:25 pm to
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At LSU, Saban spotted a high-school player named Jacob Hester, an undersized, two-star prospect. Saban turned Hester into a contributor at the college level, and Hester went on to play six years in the NFL.


Damn. He made Jacob Hester after only coaching him for 7-8 months. That is impressive
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:27 pm to
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Saban isn’t happy unless he’s miserable and frustrated.


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What if he were hired by a team that already had a stacked deck at the most important position in the game?


As great as Saban is, the one thing he isn't really is a QB mentor IMO. I'd have to look back at the Miami defensive numbers as well but there my recollection was he didn't perform at the level you might expect and had serious issues with veteran players (notable show down with Zach Thomas for example).

He's capable in theory but I don't think he likes a system where he isn't the functional god of the organization. Pro players have egos and leverage - he tolerates or limits that, not likes that, in college.
Posted by QuiteTheConundrum
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:28 pm to
It's somewhat valid point that he saw him and offered him a place at a major level college. Yes , he wasn't necessarily responsible for Hester getting to the pro but he did give him a chance based on an eye for talent and later coaching helped propelled the raw talent upward.

Hell, I'm young but seeing Hester has played six years of NFL ball makes me realize how fast time has gone by.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:30 pm to
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Damn. He made Jacob Hester after only coaching him for 7-8 months. That is impressive



Not to mention, I would be shocked if there wasn't 1 guy like this on almost every coach's resume.

Do it 20 times or whatever is statistically relevant and I might be impressed.
This post was edited on 9/2/15 at 5:30 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112354 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:32 pm to
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It's somewhat valid point that he saw him and offered him a place at a major level college. Yes , he wasn't necessarily responsible for Hester getting to the pro but he did give him a chance based on an eye for talent and later coaching helped propelled the raw talent upward.


The article specifically states that he "turned" him
This post was edited on 9/2/15 at 5:33 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:32 pm to
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Could Saban return to the NFL?


Yep, just like you could have refrained from posting such a stupid article.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:35 pm to
His ego is too big for the NFL. I could see him taking a year off then going to SC or ND.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:36 pm to
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Yep, just like you could have refrained from posting such a stupid article.


Relax buddy, it's just a message board.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:36 pm to
No, you.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:37 pm to
Saban has no choice of being a successful NFL coach. His personality just won't work.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:40 pm to
They'd be fricking stupid to get rid of Pagano
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:41 pm to
If he's not happy at Alabama, where people worship him, he sure as hell won't be happy in the NFL where he can't control everything and everyone... He's a control freak and isn't suited for the NFL. His next step will be retirement.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:45 pm to
Florio didn't have anything to write it seems. I did prefer when PFT had a heavier reliance on rumors though. They still call it the rumor mill, but he just posts commentary and a link to stories that broke the day before.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112354 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:45 pm to
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They'd be fricking stupid to get rid of Pagano


Why? Pagano kind of sucks.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:47 pm to
People need to accept that Bama is saban's final stop. He'll never coach another team unless it's like some pee wee or high school team as a way to spend retirement.

If he does return to the NFL, it will be some time and in an executive role
This post was edited on 9/2/15 at 5:48 pm
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13070 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:50 pm to
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by arcalades Saban has no choice of being a successful NFL coach. His personality just won't work.


Heard a lot of the same about Pete. It's not a forgone conclusion.

But I see Saban retiring in Bama. And honestly hope he does. I love to hate the guy, and play him every year. Even though we are on a serious losing streak(LSU).
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117732 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:01 pm to
Agreed. If he goes out losing to LSU, then that'll be perfect.

I think we take them this year. We should have last year. frick John Chavis.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:01 pm to
People believing these are hilarious
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