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Consider Paul Hornung and Gale Sayers
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:16 pm
...or more to the point. What the frick are they doing in the Hall of Fame?
In nine years Hornung ran for 3711 yds. for an average of 412 yds a season.
In seven years Sayers ran for 4956 yds. for an average of 708 yds a season for teams that never sniffed an NFL Championship team.
By basis of comparison, Adrian Peterson has 4204 yds. in less than 3 full seasons.
Deuce McAllister has 6096 yds in 8 seasons, so certainly he'll be considered for the Hall.... RIGHT?
In nine years Hornung ran for 3711 yds. for an average of 412 yds a season.
In seven years Sayers ran for 4956 yds. for an average of 708 yds a season for teams that never sniffed an NFL Championship team.
By basis of comparison, Adrian Peterson has 4204 yds. in less than 3 full seasons.
Deuce McAllister has 6096 yds in 8 seasons, so certainly he'll be considered for the Hall.... RIGHT?
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Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:18 pm to Amadeo
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Consider Paul Hornung and Gale Sayers
...or more to the point. What the frick are they doing in the Hall of Fame?
In nine years Hornung ran for 3711 yds. for an average of 412 yds a season.
In seven years Sayers ran for 4956 yds. for an average of 708 yds a season for teams that never sniffed an NFL Championship team
You have NO clue about PRO FOOTBALL. Or the evelotion of it!!!
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:22 pm to Amadeo
You compare players to other players in their own era, not to players in other eras.
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:24 pm to dukke v
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You have NO clue about PRO FOOTBALL. Or the evelotion of it!!!
Enlighten me
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:30 pm to WikiTiger
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You compare players to other players in their own era, not to players in other eras.
You mean when Hornung and Sayers ran in the run first/pass second NFL of the 60's with 240 pound linemen and 5.0 dbs
I'm still waiting for you and Dukkev to enlighten me
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:34 pm to Amadeo
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Deuce McAllister has 6096 yds in 8 seasons, so certainly he'll be considered for the Hall.... RIGHT?
no
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:34 pm to dukke v
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You have NO clue about PRO FOOTBALL. Or the evelotion of it!!!
I'd like to shove a bottle of evelotion down your piehole, tough guy.
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:43 pm to Amadeo
ok, can you now post the special teams stats for Sayers? Also, please post how he ranked in the NFL in rushing, kick and punt returns, and all purpose yards for his first 5 seasons before he shredded his knee. He changed the game, but listing his body of work more accurately will be a good start.
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:43 pm to Amadeo
Sayers was a great player whose carreer was cut short by injuries. He was one of the best RB's to ever play the game.
Horning was a very good RB who was helped immensely by playing on those great Packer teams of the 60's.
Sayers belongs in the Hall w/o question IMO.
Horning is debatable.
Horning was a very good RB who was helped immensely by playing on those great Packer teams of the 60's.
Sayers belongs in the Hall w/o question IMO.
Horning is debatable.
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:45 pm to L.A.
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Horning is debatable.
agreed. But, his part on the Packers dynasty, as well his contributions as a kicker make him more worthy than others with his numbers.
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:45 pm to dukke v
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You have NO clue about PRO FOOTBALL. Or the evelotion of it!!!
evelotion
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:48 pm to Amadeo
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You mean when Hornung and Sayers ran in the run first/pass second NFL of the 60's with 240 pound linemen and 5.0 dbs
I'm still waiting for you and Dukkev to enlighten me
I will!! Sayers was a BEAST when he played. He was SO much better than the others players around him it was not even FUNNY. KINDA LIKE JIM BROWN. Hourning was good but NOT in Sayers class.
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:50 pm to Proejo
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evelotion
GROW cA PAIR Nd SWEEP THE BASEMENT!! WE ALL know that you don't know shite about sports so GTFO!!! This is BIG BOY TALK!!
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:56 pm to dukke v
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This is BIG BOY TALK!!
Posted on 12/11/09 at 6:18 pm to Proejo
More important question: how can Donnie Shell NOT be in the Hall? Makes it hard to take it serial.
Posted on 12/11/09 at 6:23 pm to Amadeo
gale sayers changed the game with his ability to break tackle and with his speed and shiftiness
Posted on 12/11/09 at 6:24 pm to L.A.
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Sayers was a great player whose carreer was cut short by injuries. He was one of the best RB's to ever play the game.
Horning was a very good RB who was helped immensely by playing on those great Packer teams of the 60's.
Sayers belongs in the Hall w/o question IMO.
this
Horning is debatable.
Posted on 12/11/09 at 6:29 pm to el tigre
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but listing his body of work more accurately will be a good start.
Again, I'll compare his numbers to McAllister whose career lasted about the same length.
Receiving Yds McAllister 1,720 for 212 avg.
Receiving Yds Sawyers 1,301 for 186 avg.
AP yards McAllister 8.931 Sayers 9435
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He changed the game
Admittingly, I'm just throwing numbers out, but do you actually have anything to back that statement up other than parroting your uncles waxing nostalgic.
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his first 5 seasons before he shredded his knee
A sympathy vote for a promising but short career does not a true Hall of Famer make. Again see Deuce McAllister.
This post was edited on 12/11/09 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 12/11/09 at 6:30 pm to Amadeo
at this thread
Posted on 12/11/09 at 6:36 pm to Amadeo
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Again, I'll compare his numbers
Numbers DON'T mean shite in this talk.
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Admittingly, I'm just throwing numbers out, but do you actually have anything to back that statement up other than parroting your uncles waxing nostalgic.
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Like I have said YOU know NOTHING about the HISTORY of the NFL!!!!
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