I don't know anything about what major Universitys do with money they make off of player images or name rights or all that legal mumbo jumbo. If they make money off of any players' likeness, that money should go towards the athletics program of the school and towards scholarships, so in turn, each player is being rewarded for their likeness being used. If its not like that, then I have a problem with it, but I don't know near enough about it to comment on that.

Bottom line: Players are receiving an opportunity for a FREE college degree to play a sport. What more compensation should a college athlete receive? None.

And to address the whole high school recruits getting new Escalades one day... That could be their parents, financially stable or not, purchasing them a car that they wouldn't normally be able to purchase if they had to pay for college. It can be in anticipation of future $$$ that their kid would make as a professional. Not all of those situations are "illegal benefits" from boosters or agents, some are legit gifts. I believe this happened a few years ago with Terrelle Pryor... He got a new Escalade, or just really expensive ride, and his mom was "poor", but it was discovered that she took out a loan to be able to pay for the car in anticipation of his future NFL success. Extremely financially irresponsible? Perhaps. Illegal activity and benefits? Absolutely not.

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Posted by bomber77

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Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:24 pm to lsu777

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No they shouldn't. Only something like 10 programs actually ran in the black last year. This would just make it worse, with more programs using tax dollars to supplement the deficits.

Also if you pay them then according title 9 they would have to pay enough female athletes to offset every penny that goes to any male athlete.

I'm sure I will be in the minority here but they shouldn't get paid. Most are getting over 100k in scholarships, while moat schools lose big money on their athletic department. Most athletes never make enough money for the university for the school to recoup the scholarship money. Even most football players don't.

Now I would be all for it if title 9 didn't exist and all schools made enough money to cover a small stipend of maybe 200-400/month. All schools would have to be on an equal playing field to.

Most people who say they should be paid ignore these facts. Paying players would be a logistical nightmare.

Totally agree with this. Can't pay them anything. There is no way to cross this line and make it work.

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Posted by cwill

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Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:41 pm to lsu777

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So you saying somebody else is taking the test for them? I've had classes with athletes at both lsu and mcneese and I never saw that once.

I saying prolly. I wrote so you may understand. Try this to: I say most get test from tutors before test. Prolly.

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Well if you go across the board that number would Prolly be less then 50% which means it is Damn close to the national average. That's what you don't seem to get, not even
60% of students who start college finish.

You probably were in classes with a lot of athletes....what I'm saying is that they don't even have the chops to be admitted - they shouldn't be allowed to walk through the doors. That's different from people earning admission but failing to perform. Prolly.

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And what about those that could have never gotten a degree without the athletic scholarship? Should we just give up on them? I'm not saying you are wrong on every account but across the ncaa I think you are wrong and are looking at things just through the lenses of a school in the sec.

Could you have earned a degree from LSU when you were 12? Most don't earn a degree and a large portion of those that do earn bullshite degrees like sports management - usually with the help of tutors who earn the degree for them. This isn' the Wizard of Oz and giving a bunch of Scarecrows degrees won't suddenly give them brains.

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What many here don't understand is most athletic dept don't make money. It cost the schools money. Hell most football programs don't make money. They can't afford to pay players period, there is nothing else to argue unless you think athletic departments budgets should be subsided.

If the school knowingly lets in players who don't belong they should pay them since really they've sold out to let mercenary players in to make a buck off them....Prolly.

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Posted by LfcSU3520

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Posted on 9/16/10 at 2:27 pm to GeauxDT

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Absolutely NO WAY in hell should college athletes be "paid". They (MOST) are ALREADY being paid in the form of a SCHOLARSHIP. They are being "paid" to go to school and participate in a sport, while having the opportunity to earn a college degree FOR FREE. It's not a fricking job, athletics aren't the only aspect of college they partake in.

way to come in and spout off your two cents without reading any of the previous arguments.

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Posted by LfcSU3520

Arizona

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Posted on 9/16/10 at 2:30 pm to KBeezy

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They actually did a break down of how the Navy qb runs the triple option during the ESPN telecast of the Maryland vs Navy game, and they used NCAA 11 to show how dangerous the real life kid was. I thought those guys on the EA game were just generic players stuck in there, and it was only coincidence the Navy qb shared his number, height, weight and classification

it's unacceptable. The purpose of the NCAA is to actually protect the athletes from being misrepresented and to make sure others aren't profiting from them. Whoops.

Now the organization makes millions by doing the exact opposite of that. It's so corrupt that it makes my head spin, yet everyone seems to buy their bullshite.

There is no better example in the world of this than the AJ Green situation. I hope somebody can bring the NCAA to its knees.

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Posted by Antonio Clifton

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Posted on 9/17/10 at 8:11 am to LfcSU3520

Who gets the $$$ from the PS3 & Xbox games NCAA 11 when they use the players likeliness, skills, etc? Is it the NCAA, the school?

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Posted by lsu777

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Posted on 9/17/10 at 11:17 am to Antonio Clifton

Not sure but either way its used to pay for things for the athletes whether thats women's volleyball tournaments to rules enforcement. Either way it is spent on the athletes.

Most money made period goes to schollies, travel cost, housing etc.

Yea coaches make a lot but they get the fans to turn out to pay for all the things the athletes think they should just be given.

I'm so tired of the bitching. They get a god Damn 100k+ education. If they fail to take advantage of it, oh frick well.

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Posted by RightKindaGuy

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Posted on 9/17/10 at 11:25 am to KBeezy

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But you Dont have a problem
With EA making money off the athletes image without their permission

EA will solve that problem by asking players to sign a waiver to use their resemblance on the game. if they dont sign the waiver, they will be left off the game.

the thing is, MOST kids just like the idea of being on a video game and dont even see the underlying issues involved in the process anyways.

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Posted by LfcSU3520

Arizona

Member since Dec 2003

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Posted on 9/17/10 at 2:00 pm to lsu777

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Not sure but either way its used to pay for things for the athletes whether thats women's volleyball tournaments to rules enforcement. Either way it is spent on the athletes.

oh goody. They can use their likenesses so the women's volleyball team can travel to Topeka and play. Did you know that the Phoenix Mercury gets its travel budget from Larry Fitzgerald's endorsement money?

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Either way it is spent on the athletes.

jesus. Yeah every dime goes right to the players. Selfless organization that NCAA. Absolute beacons of unselfish light. Get real. There are tons of people who are rich as frick off of these players, and NONE of them are the players.

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Yea coaches make a lot but they get the fans to turn out to pay for all the things the athletes think they should just be given.

True. I remember last year when I couldn't wait to watch Les take some snaps at QB. I told all my friends about him, showed off Youtube vids like it was my job, bought his jersey and so on. Wait. No, nevermind, that was Shepard.

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They get a god Damn 100k+ education

just throwing out some huge arbitrary number. That's cool. You should look up the costs of in state tuition at most of these schools.

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If they fail to take advantage of it, oh frick well

and now you're moving the goalposts in this argument. No one is saying they shouldn't take advantage of their degree. That's their prerogative. It still doesn't address the issue that they make millions of dollars for people who steal it from them, all the while getting fricked by the organization that is supposed to protect them.

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