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re: Chicago Cubs Super Prospect Futureboner Sploosh Emporium Thread | Maddon Thread
Posted on 8/12/14 at 5:01 pm to piggidyphish
Posted on 8/12/14 at 5:01 pm to piggidyphish
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I'm sure there is some truth to that, but the FO has never been shy saying they'd prefer a college bat as there is less risk.
I agree that a slight preference to college bats may exist, but it probably acts as more of a tiebreaker between similar talents than anything. The narrative of the Cubs FO only targeting bats at the top of the draft is false. The FO stated Appel and Aiken were first on each of their draft boards.
Appel
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Theo Epstein has been consistent in his drafting philosophy. The Cubs will draft the best player available on their board. As an example, the Cubs picked second in the draft in 2013. After college pitcher Mark Appel was taken first by Houston, the Cubs chose third baseman Kris Bryant. Appel was No.1 on the Cubs’ draft list and Bryant was No. 2. They didn’t reach for another pitcher.
Aiken
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By late Wednesday night, there were indications the Cubs had backed off Schwarber and would go in a different direction. Less than 24 hours later, Jason McLeod said the Cubs had Schwarber at No. 2 on their board after Brady Aiken.“We were enamored with Brady Aiken, but Kyle was No. 2,” McLeod said.
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 5:18 pm to Ninja Looter
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he narrative of the Cubs FO only targeting bats at the top of the draft is false.
I don't think anyone has said that...only that they show a preference. Hence aiken over schwarber as i mentioned in my last post.
Although if mcleod is to be trusted schwarber over rodon says a lot, as does bryant over gray. Pitching starved organization passes on Johnathan gray for a bat.
quote:Mooney. I think that's all anyone is saying.
But the Cubs stuck to their philosophy with the No. 2 overall pick on Thursday night, calculating the inherent risk that comes with pitching and recognizing that the best bets at the top of the draft are made on position players
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:44 am to piggidyphish
Just for fun, super early 2015 draft guesses
Early rankings
and also...how about kyle hendricks.
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But since we have very good reason to think that the Cubs will once again zero in on the best college hitter in the draft with their first round pick next summer, it is almost hard not to take an early look at the candidates.
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Based on that list, and on that list alone, I suspect D.J. Stewart will be ranking very high on the Cubs leaderboard. A left handed slugging left fielder with more walks than strikeouts? Yes, please.
Early rankings
and also...how about kyle hendricks.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 9:01 am
Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:05 am to piggidyphish
I watched a good bit of last night's game and two things I really liked...Kyle Hendricks knows how to pitch, not just throw. And Alcantara is going to be a good baseball player for this team.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:10 am to The Sad Banana
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Kyle Hendricks knows how to pitch, not just throw
Yea...he looks polished. No real strike out pitch, but seems like a 4/5 innings eater is very obtainable for him long term.
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Alcantara is going to be a good baseball player for this team.
Kid picked up CF pretty quick...still a few odd paths, but so far he's been a pleasure to watch. Don't expect him to get too many TOOTBLANs either.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:16 am to piggidyphish
quote:Seems to pitch with minimal effort and has lots of downward movement. His GB/FB is nearly 2:1 and his xFIP is 3.64 on the year so far. This could be the real thing, right?
Yea...he looks polished. No real strike out pitch, but seems like a 4/5 innings eater is very obtainable for him long term.
quote:He's another player like Junior Lake who seems to have a lot of athletic ability and fluid movements, except unlike Lake he seems to have a higher baseball IQ.
Kid picked up CF pretty quick...still a few odd paths, but so far he's been a pleasure to watch. Don't expect him to get too many TOOTBLANs either.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:04 am to The Sad Banana
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He's another player like Junior Lake who seems to have a lot of athletic ability and fluid movements, except unlike Lake he seems to have a higher baseball IQ.
Yea...i also think 'mendy has a lower ceiling and higher floor than lake. And right now it looks like that floor is where lake is going to spend his time. He needs to improve his throwing...big time, but that could be for any number of reasons, none of which are arm strength.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:22 am to piggidyphish
Kris Bryant porn. It's just silly at this point.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:34 am to The Sad Banana
not for nothing, but either the blogger from obstructed view or aisle 424 predicted Soler would be recalled this week. I took it as more of a just shooting blindly guess than a hunch...but a man can dream right?
and since that's not news...this is:
and since that's not news...this is:
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Ben Badler ?@BenBadler 10m If he had enough plate appearances to qualify, Jorge Soler would lead the minors in OPS. Since he doesn't, it's Kris Bryant.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 10:39 am
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:43 am to piggidyphish
Since Soler is already on the 40-man roster and has an MLB contract, the only thing standing in his way of being called up would be development or health. I'm sure the MLB Cubs couldn't care less about him playing in the AAA playoffs if they feel like they are ready to call him up.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 10:44 am
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:46 am to The Sad Banana
well he needs at bats. I'm not going to pretend to know if they want him getting those as AAA or at MLB. Hopefully at MLB, but even without 40/25 man considerations, it still would feel a little quick based on lack of PAs for this FO. With that said, I really think anyone close can feel the momentum building for possibly being a WC2 contender next year so the baptism by fire might be necessary.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 10:51 am
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:53 am to piggidyphish
His discipline at the plate is what makes me think there is an outside chance the front office is considering it. But like you I won't pretend to know.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:06 am to The Sad Banana
I'd love to see what he can do at the big league level. But there is something to say about competitive playoff baseball, even if it's AAA.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:14 am to Toula
On the one hand, of course it is. But you couple playoff AAA baseball with a guy with service time considerations like Bryant, and well you can almost bet he'll stay and play the AAA postseason.
But Soler isn't in the same boat. So, to me, the front office has to decide which AB's are more meaningful to Soler's development? We all know he needs AB's, and he was going to get them. The prevailing thought was he'd get called up after the AAA season for that sole reason alone.
It also appears that Soler will be a Chicago Cub in 2015, at least in my opinion.
But Soler isn't in the same boat. So, to me, the front office has to decide which AB's are more meaningful to Soler's development? We all know he needs AB's, and he was going to get them. The prevailing thought was he'd get called up after the AAA season for that sole reason alone.
It also appears that Soler will be a Chicago Cub in 2015, at least in my opinion.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:19 am to The Sad Banana
I agree with all that. Just saying don't discount the value of him staying in AAA.
IMO, AAA playoff ABs with runners in scoring position in late innings shows as much as meaningless ABs in the majors.
Also something to be said about camaraderie and confidence among teammay in winning a championship at any level.
IMO, AAA playoff ABs with runners in scoring position in late innings shows as much as meaningless ABs in the majors.
Also something to be said about camaraderie and confidence among teammay in winning a championship at any level.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:25 am to Toula
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AAA playoff ABs with runners in scoring position in late innings shows as much as meaningless ABs in the majors.
For sure. I guess the best argument against that is that when rosters expand in september and every team has guys up, if that team isn't competitive, are you really getting major league ab's if they're running out a long shot type pitcher?
By calling up before then you could almost guarantee he'd be facing mlb quality each ab. Is that a stretch...of course. But i want to see him sooner because watching these games every evening right now feels like i'm just giving my self an excuse to zone out until rizzo,baez,castro abs.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:21 pm to piggidyphish
quote:But, in the Cubs' particular situation, their schedule is stacked with contenders to finish the year, right? In this instance, maybe it's not a bad idea.
For sure. I guess the best argument against that is that when rosters expand in september and every team has guys up, if that team isn't competitive, are you really getting major league ab's if they're running out a long shot type pitcher?
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:39 pm to The Sad Banana
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heir schedule is stacked with contenders to finish the year, right?
jesus, it is. September is going to be brutal.
Yea you bring him up in September regardless, i was making a, now very apparent, poor argument for the sooner the better.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:00 pm to piggidyphish
Baez and rizzo back to back homeruns off lohse
Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:04 pm to groundscrew
Someone gif that Baez bomb
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