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Posted on 7/5/09 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20928 posts
Posted on 7/5/09 at 8:07 pm to
Lesnar is worlds better at Cain's best quality which is wrestling. I agree as well - no way Cain wins that fight.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30002 posts
Posted on 7/5/09 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

Will Fedor ever sign with UFC?

The money has to be better, right?


Not necessarily, they might be paying him a ton just to have his name in their org. UFC COULD pay him more though. No matter what anyone says, it has always tarnished Fedor's rep that he won't come over to UFC. I've always felt that it has to do with him feeling his legacy might get somehow fricked up if he loses.

I don't see how someone can put Fedor in a cage with Brock Lesnar and honestly say Brock has no shot.
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 7/5/09 at 8:19 pm to
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Lesnar is worlds better at Cain's best quality which is wrestling. I agree as well - no way Cain wins that fight.


Eh Cain is a pretty damn good wrestler. Probably the only UFC who has a hope out wrestling Lesnar.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30002 posts
Posted on 7/5/09 at 8:24 pm to
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Eh Cain is a pretty damn good wrestler. Probably the only UFC who has a hope out wrestling Lesnar.


Cain could possibly be more skilled at wrestling then Lesnar is, it wouldn't matter because Lesnar is so much stronger though.
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 7/5/09 at 8:28 pm to
Both were All American collegiate wrestlers.
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 7/5/09 at 10:41 pm to
quote:

No matter what anyone says, it has always tarnished Fedor's rep that he won't come over to UFC. I've always felt that it has to do with him feeling his legacy might get somehow fricked up if he loses.

I don't see how someone can put Fedor in a cage with Brock Lesnar and honestly say Brock has no shot.


totally agree.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12627 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 9:23 am to
Mir will catch Brock again. It takes a while for a newbie to master all the nuances of MMA. He won't be able to rely on athleticism alone against a vetran like Mir. I think Carwin is in the same boat. Both have bright futures. But Mir is at the top of his game right now, I don't think he will lose anytime soon. Anything can happen though, I'm just not buying into the Brock hype just yet.
Posted by lpd1975
At the lake
Member since Nov 2007
2790 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Both were All American collegiate wrestlers.


All American =/= National Champion
Posted by lpd1975
At the lake
Member since Nov 2007
2790 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 9:31 am to
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I'm just not buying into the Brock hype just yet.


You are like a broken record with this.

I really think that this one is a toss-up. I will not be surprised by any outcome.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12627 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 10:01 am to
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You are like a broken record with this


I know...I know...

It just bothers me when casual fans (I'm not saying you are) throw out the "Brock vs Fedor" nonsense. It's not as bad as the Kimbo garbage, but I still think he was gift-wrapped a belt where Carwin has to work for it. That's my jaded tired ole $0.02
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20928 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 10:06 am to
Mir can be very scary if his new and improved stand up is as dangerous as it seemed against Big Nog. Interesting to see if he has that kind of success against Lesnar.
Posted by ian
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
160 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 10:36 am to
+100

Mir is too crafty and has been there. He was the champ before when he broke tim Silvia's arm. who is to say this man is not on top of his game. his standup is the best its ever been and he works best on his back. Bad match up for Brock IMO...
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12627 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 10:43 am to
Mir looked real impresive vs Big Nog. He really surprised me with his stand-up. He's not a one trick pony any more.

Man...this card is loaded. What's the five fights on the main card: Lesnar/Mir, GSP/Alves, Hendo/Bisping, and who else? I hope Fitch/Thiago make the main card. That looks like FON. Does Belcher/Japanese guy who's name I can't remember or Coleman/Bonnar make the main card?
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81329 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 10:47 am to
quote:

I hope Fitch/Thiago make the main card. That looks like FON.


boring wrestler plus b level fighter who landed a lucky punch = fight of the night?
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 10:49 am to
quote:


All American =/= National Champion



Yeah Velasquez finished 5th, but I don't know anything about the specifics, so I'm not sure what that means.
Posted by jojothetireguy
Live out in Coconut Grove
Member since Jan 2009
10536 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 10:55 am to
My question is, who does Brock have to beat to be legitimate in the eyes of those who say he's not?

ie. this is not a sarcastic statement, i really want to know, who he has to knock off.
Posted by ian
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
160 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 10:59 am to
HE NEEDS TO BEAT CAIN VALASQUES AND SOMEONE OF CHEICK CONGO'S CALLIBER. HE MUST FINISH THEM IN AN EARLY ROUND AND MAYBE HE WILL GET HIS PROPPS....
Posted by jojothetireguy
Live out in Coconut Grove
Member since Jan 2009
10536 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 11:02 am to
you don't have to yell, damn.
I think Lesnar's rise was a bit rediculous, because he got there based on popularity. Thats a given, but i have watched 20 some years of this sport ever since there were no rules and no time limits and now that Lesnar is there, he's a beast and i think the people who have a problem with him shouldn't have it if he does end Mir in the first or second round
This post was edited on 7/6/09 at 11:03 am
Posted by ian
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
160 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 11:03 am to
sorry bout that man...i was in a program that neede me to be in caps.
Posted by Acreboy
Member since Nov 2005
38568 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 11:04 am to
quote:

The money has to be better, right?

he's making enough now. it's about respect at this point. if he wants to prove he's the best.
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