re: Brady Quinn jumps Tim Tebow for Broncos 2nd string QB

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why do you think this is?

as a group they all just hate him?



no idea

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Until proven otherwise - I think we should assume they think Quinn is better able to win them football games.

Coaches and GMs do lose their jobs when their decisions don't work out - that's a good motivator to make the best possible decision

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I look at reports saying Brady Quinn has played better and think that's all that is going on

Even if he is, and he might be, he is a veteran qb who you know sucks and will sink your team if he is forced into action

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you have a stronger feeling about Quinn than I do - I haven't decided if he or TT are any good at the NFL level yet. Being stuck on the Browns is not really getting a chance to do much

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he performed very well FOR A ROOKIE

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Point is, none of us know AND NEITHER DO HIS COACHES...you know how everyone says, "it's just preseason" well, it's just practice. He looked good in his 3 starts last year with an abysmal team...but it was only 3 starts

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the for a rookie comment is pretty meh to me - houston and oakland were not very good teams and you don't win much of anything running up a 50% completion rate.

And I'm in the "you don't win long term in the NFL with a run first QB camp". Some will argue this by giving examples of guys who could run but were still pass first (and they have obviously missed the point). Tim Tebow IMO will succeed or fail at the NFL level based on his ability to complete a high percentage of passes - period, end of story.

and RE: the neither do the coaches comment? Really? If they don't know then they should be fired - because it is their job to evaluate exactly this kind of thing.

There are no great QBs IMO who are not also excellent in practice and extremely serious about performing at a very high level in practice. So if the argument from some that TT is not a great practice QB? Then that is a major strike against him IMO (if true)

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the for a rookie comment is pretty meh to me - houston and oakland were not very good teams and you don't win much of anything running up a 50% completion rate.

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he only had 3 games, so I don't care too much about the completion percentage thing...also he had an elite YPA number despite missing on half of his passes. YPA is a more important statistic than completion percentage...that's not an opinion, it's a fact...there is a higher correlation with winning games. His YPA was 8...Brady Quinn is a career 5.4 YPA. Houston is an average NFL team and Oakland, all joking aside, is an NFL team....can we only judge him against elite NFL teams

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And I'm in the "you don't win long term in the NFL with a run first QB camp"

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that's why you develop that run first qb into an dual threat...steve young was a run first qb, you develop them into a guy like a 2004 mcnaab who keeps his eyes down the field. He'll always be a run first qb if he does not get any meaningful reps

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Tim Tebow IMO will succeed or fail at the NFL level based on his ability to complete a high percentage of passes - period, end of story.

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he's only played in 3 games with what was the worst team in the NFL...their best pass rusher and lineman out for the year, meh receivers and no running backs

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and RE: the neither do the coaches comment? Really?

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they have not given him any meaningful repetitions...instead they are wasting those on a wash up like quinn

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If they don't know then they should be fired - because it is their job to evaluate exactly this kind of thing.

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word...loved the fox hire. I think he's a good coach, but when the VP of Football Operations is on twitter like a 15 year old girl bad mouthing the QB, then that creates the PERCEPTION that Elway is calling the shots with Tebow

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There are no great QBs IMO who are not also excellent in practice and extremely serious about performing at a very high level in practice.

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Who says he's not serious...he's stunk it up in some practices following a lockout...big deal, and that's only one video...the Denver media is singing a different story. People forget...this is a QB with only 3 games under his belt with, once again, A HORRIBLE team.

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So if the argument from some that TT is not a great practice QB?

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sucking in a few practices in july or august is no big deal...I've been to saints practices where Brees has thrown multiple INTs...doesn't mean shite from a performance standpoint. You're supposed to make mistakes in practice...that's why it's called practice.


I AM OFFICIALLY OUT OF THE TT DISCUSSIONS...hope denver cuts him, hope he goes to the Raiders, turns out to be special and kicks the shite out of the Broncos twice a year...plus the NFL is always good when the raiders are ballin'

My only prediciton in this whole mess: Elway will be a massive failure as VP of Football Operations

I'm a diehard LSU fan and I am actually rooting like hell for Tebow. By all accounts, he is a great guy. He was one of the best college football players of all time. As a LSU fan I am just glad that he is gone. I also agree with your post about Quinn and Orton being much better in a practice setting. However, Tebow has always proven to be a gamer and I do think the Broncos are making a mistake by selling him short. I can kind of get the debate between Tebow and Orton but there is NO reason why Brady Quinn should be ahead of Tebow on the depth chart. Look at Quinn's body of work and look at what Tebow did in limited action towards the end of last season.

It amazes me how quickly tards can take over a thread, and then rational/sane/objective posters can take back over said thread just as quickly.

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but there is NO reason why Brady Quinn should be ahead of Tebow on the depth chart.

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How bout if Quinn outperforms him, is that not good enough for you? You have no idea what the coaches see in practice, it's kinda foolish for you to say that.

FWIW I don't think the broncos have named Quinn the backup, it was only for that last game. We'll see what the broncos do the next game.