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Posted on 3/1/09 at 8:40 pm to
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
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Posted on 3/1/09 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

they need OU to get knocked out of the Big XII Tourney early and they need to win it. I think it's possible.


i completely disagree. i think us beating them with griffin in the finals is what would do it for us.

fwiw, that was simply a prediction/what i want the seeds to be, not what they are today or what they are gonna be. however, if kansas wins out and beats oklahoma, itll be very tough not to give it to them. in saying that, i dont think they get it
Posted by BraveTiger225
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/1/09 at 9:40 pm to
I'm once again going to have LSU getting shippped out west...as a 3. Damn pods. I tried to justify some other scenarios, but just couldn't. We are closer to Portland than Clemson.
Posted by BraveTiger225
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/1/09 at 10:06 pm to
Here we go. Updated. If you see flaws, not disagreements, let me know. Disagreements, of course, are welcomed and encouraged.

Bracket projections after Sunday, March 1

Projected Auto Bids are in CAPS.

NOTE: BYU and UCLA are NOT the projected winners of the Mountain West and Pac-10.

SOUTH (Memphis)

Greensboro
(1) NORTH CAROLINA vs. (16) RADFORD
(8) West Virginia vs. (9) Wisconsin

Miami
(4) Clemson vs. (13) WESTERN KENTUCKY
(5) Marquette vs. (12) Texas A&M

Portland
(3) LSU vs. (14) NORTH DAKOTA STATE
(6) UCLA vs. (11) CREIGHTON

Dayton
(2) Louisville vs. (15) UT-MARTIN
(7) Boston College vs. (10) Oklahoma State


WEST (Arizona)

Kansas City
(1) OKLAHOMA vs. (16) UC-RIVERSIDE
(8) California vs. (9) Providence

Minneapolis
(4) Missouri vs. (13) BOWLING GREEN
(5) GONZAGA vs. (12) Penn State

Portland
(3) WASHINGTON vs. (14) WEBER STATE
(6) Florida State vs. (11) DAVIDSON

Kansas City
(2) MEMPHIS vs. (15) JACKSONVILLE
(7) BUTLER vs. (10) St. Mary's


MIDWEST (Indianapolis)

Dayton
(1) PITTSBURGH vs. (16) ALABAMA STATE/ROBERT MORRIS
(8) UTAH vs. (9) South Carolina

Boise
(4) Purdue vs. (13) New Mexico
(5) Arizona State vs. (12) UTAH STATE


Miami
(3) Wake Forest vs. (14) SAM HOUSTON STATE
(6) XAVIER vs. (11) Ohio State

Boise
(2) Kansas vs. (15) MORGAN STATE
(7) BYU vs. (10) Arizona


EAST (Boston)

Philadelphia
(1) Connecticut vs. (16) CORNELL
(8) Tennessee vs. (9) Dayton

Philadelphia
(4) Villanova vs. (13) VCU
(5) Illinois vs. (12) Miami

Greensboro
(3) Duke vs. (14) AMERICAN
(6) Texas vs. (11) SIENA

Minneapolis
(2) MICHIGAN STATE vs. (15) BINGHAMTON
(7) Syracuse vs. (10) Florida


Last Five In:
Ohio State
Miami
Texas A&M
Penn State
New Mexico

First Five Out:
Kentucky
Minnesota
Virginia Tech
Maryland
Kansas State

Next Five Out:
Rhode Island
Michigan
Cincinnati
UAB
Notre Dame
Posted by BraveTiger225
Atlanta, GA
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/1/09 at 11:50 pm to
Perhaps the biggest Big Monday yet tomorrow.

Nova-Notre Dame. I know there have been more high-profile games, but Notre Dame is clawing their way to trying to get a bid, and Nova wants two byes at MSG in a bad way, and a top 4 seed.
Posted by latiger09
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 3:10 am to
quote:

And I would love a rematch with Xavier, FWIW.


if the bracket played out the way you have it right now that would be fantastic. id love a xavier rematch too, and duke would be a very winnable game. pitt would be able to name their score most likely, but an elite 8 trip would be awesome.

i assume you are predicting lsu to win the sec tournament with this, right? i see you keep moving them up slowly, if they do win out are you absolutely sure a #2 seed isnt possible? i know this is a big if, but what if lsu wins out and:

- duke loses to unc, wf loses to clemson, mich st loses to purdue, and all 3 teams lose in either the first or second round of the conference tournament, and
- memphis somehow loses a game

still no shot at a 2? other than memphis losing a game i dont think the other scenarios are that far fetched.
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 1:14 pm to
pisces, with LSU's meteoric rise in the polls, you have to admit we are now capable of getting a #2 seed if we win out as vegas will probably expect us to...gonna be tough as hell but we can do it!
Posted by LuckyLee
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 1:34 pm to
LSU won't get a #2 seed and honestly LSU doesn't deserve a #2 seed.
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 1:41 pm to
i'm sure you do think that since one of our 4 losses came to the shittiest team in the SEC
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

pisces, with LSU's meteoric rise in the polls, you have to admit we are now capable of getting a #2 seed if we win out as vegas will probably expect us to...gonna be tough as hell but we can do it!


3 at best
Posted by LuckyLee
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 1:46 pm to
Any objective human being would think that LSU doesn't deserve a #2. Beating mediocre teams is only worth so much. It's not LSU's fault that the SEC sucks, but that's just the way it is. In reality, LSU is probably as good as a team like Syracuse.
This post was edited on 3/2/09 at 1:47 pm
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Any objective human being would think that LSU doesn't deserve a #2.


i'm not objective. i think we deserve it. also, who can forget bruce pearl's reaction to their #2 seed back during our final 4 run...it can happen
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 1:58 pm to
they could get a #2 seed, but really wouldnt deserve it. It would be soley based on the W-L record and us winning the weak SEC
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

but really wouldnt deserve it


not our fault the SEC sucks arse...this is almost like utah in the championship game argument...based on watching them play i would have said no but they came out & proved yes against bama

based on watching LSU play & watching other conferences play, i would say yes LSU deserves at #2...we are very good
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 2:07 pm to
I never said it was our fault the SEC is bad.


We have pretty much lost to the "best" teams we have played, and don't even have a "signature" win on our resume'.



It would be awesome if we could a 2 seed though. I just think its unlikely, but you never know.
Posted by BraveTiger225
Atlanta, GA
Member since May 2008
17662 posts
Posted on 3/2/09 at 2:18 pm to
Don't let the polls skew your understanding of how the selection process works. A lot of numbers go into play in that room, and the polls are not one of them. It is why Gonzaga, a few years back, was ranked in or near the top 10 and got a seed somewhere in the 6/7 range if I remember correctly.

LSU would not deserve any higher than a 3 based on any reasonable projections at this point in time. However, things do happen when conferences congregate on one stage to duke it out.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 3/2/09 at 4:14 pm to
I'm not sold on the SEC being "bad". UT beat Marquette and UF beat Washington. SC beat a very hot, at the time, Baylor team. Arkansas beat OU and Texas.

I think the league is not great, by any stretch, but it's a pretty young and up and coming league. Also, keep in mind that Ole Miss was injured all season and Auburn didn't gell until February.
Posted by BraveTiger225
Atlanta, GA
Member since May 2008
17662 posts
Posted on 3/2/09 at 4:15 pm to
Bracket projections after Sunday, March 1

NOTE: Last projections had a HUGE logistical flaw that I'm amazed I overlooked.

Projected Auto Bids are in CAPS.

NOTE: UCLA is NOT the projected winner of the Pac-10.

SOUTH (Memphis)

Greensboro
(1) NORTH CAROLINA vs. (16) RADFORD
(8) Utah vs. (9) South Carolina

Minneapolis
(4) Purdue vs. (13) BOWLING GREEN
(5) Marquette vs. (12) SIENA

Miami
(3) Wake Forest vs. (14) SAM HOUSTON STATE
(6) UCLA vs. (11) Ohio State

Dayton
(2) Louisville vs. (15) UT-MARTIN
(7) BUTLER vs. (10) Oklahoma State


WEST (Arizona)

Kansas City
(1) OKLAHOMA vs. (16) CS-NORTHRIDGE
(8) California vs. (9) Providence

Miami
(4) Clemson vs. (13) VCU
(5) GONZAGA vs. (12) Penn State

Portland
(3) WASHINGTON vs. (14) WEBER STATE
(6) Texas vs. (11) Miami

Kansas City
(2) MEMPHIS vs. (15) JACKSONVILLE
(7) West Virginia vs. (10) Florida


MIDWEST (Indianapolis)

Dayton
(1) PITTSBURGH vs. (16) ALABAMA STATE/ROBERT MORRIS
(8) Tennessee vs. (9) Wisconsin

Boise
(4) Missouri vs. (13) UTAH STATE
(5) Arizona State vs. (12) New Mexico

Philadelphia
(3) Villanova vs. (14) NORTH DAKOTA STATE
(6) XAVIER vs. (11) CREIGHTON

Minneapolis
(2) MICHIGAN STATE vs. (15) BINGHAMTON
(7) Boston College vs. (10) Arizona


EAST (Boston)

Philadelphia
(1) Connecticut vs. (16) CORNELL
(8) BYU vs. (9) Dayton

Portland
(4) LSU vs. (13) WESTERN KENTUCKY
(5) Florida State vs. (12) Kansas State

Greensboro
(3) Duke vs. (14) AMERICAN
(6) Illinois vs. (11) DAVIDSON

Boise
(2) Kansas vs. (15) MORGAN STATE
(7) Syracuse vs. (10) St. Mary's



Last Five In:
Ohio State
Miami
Kansas State
Penn State
New Mexico

First Five Out:
Kentucky
Minnesota
Virginia Tech
Maryland
Texas A&M

Next Five Out:
Rhode Island
Michigan
Cincinnati
UAB
Notre Dame
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

. UT beat Marquette and UF beat Washington. SC beat a very hot, at the time, Baylor team. Arkansas beat OU and Texas.



just a few singular wins though

none of those teams are an NCAA shoe in at this point though.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 4:16 pm to
the east bracket would be loaded
Posted by LuckyLee
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Posted on 3/2/09 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

I'm not sold on the SEC being "bad".


The SEC is terrible outside of LSU. There's really no other way to spin it.

quote:

UT beat Marquette and UF beat Washington.


Now post all of the losses. This list will be a lot longer.
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