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re: Boise vs. Top 25, last five years....
Posted on 11/27/10 at 1:31 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
Posted on 11/27/10 at 1:31 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
quote:Ok, so you downplay the Fiesta Bowl win over TCU...
i still don't see any convincing wins worth any worthy opponents.. u bring up TCU? really? and they barely beat TCU.. who also beat them the year prior..
quote:...and then you say they can earn respect by beating TCU.
they can go earn some respect next season ... having to play TCU in conference.
You Boise haters are so silly.
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Posted on 11/27/10 at 1:31 pm to The Easter Bunny
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And there is no longer a question that Boise would wear down playing in a "real" conference after seeing their D completely sucking wind the entire 2nd half yesterday.
i saw that last night thinking the same thing, i dunno even know if they could wreck shop in the ACC or Big East who have programs with much more NFL talent
Posted on 11/27/10 at 1:32 pm to yungtigr
quote:Boise is 7-1 vs BCS teams and in BCS games in the last five years. Seven of those opponents won 10 or more games.
The Boise Haters can't be proven wrong because the sample size is so ridiculously small per year.
You're right. Boise is ridiculously bad.
Posted on 11/27/10 at 1:35 pm to yungtigr
again I hate the wac..
look at what is happenining in the wac..
colt brennan sets all sorts of ncaa records.. goes undefeated against that shite competition.. gets absolutely annihilated against a real team in the sugar.. which was what a 2 loss sec school? and he has no nfl career to speak of..
last year fresno state has like 2 or 3 1000 yard rushers.. that is unheard of..
then nevada's qb and rb just set some ridiculous all time rushing record together.. and to be honest they don't even look that impressive and probably won't amount to much..
and freaking kellen moore is a heisman trophy contender.. just like colt brennan..
it's just disgusting how pathetic the wac is.. and how these teams get to claim all sorts of ncaa records bc of the high school teams they play week in and week out.
look at what is happenining in the wac..
colt brennan sets all sorts of ncaa records.. goes undefeated against that shite competition.. gets absolutely annihilated against a real team in the sugar.. which was what a 2 loss sec school? and he has no nfl career to speak of..
last year fresno state has like 2 or 3 1000 yard rushers.. that is unheard of..
then nevada's qb and rb just set some ridiculous all time rushing record together.. and to be honest they don't even look that impressive and probably won't amount to much..
and freaking kellen moore is a heisman trophy contender.. just like colt brennan..
it's just disgusting how pathetic the wac is.. and how these teams get to claim all sorts of ncaa records bc of the high school teams they play week in and week out.
Posted on 11/27/10 at 1:36 pm to xiv
i'm just glad tcu and boise will shut the other out now.. so that makes me happy.
Posted on 11/27/10 at 1:37 pm to xiv
each year's team has to be taken as an individual in CFB with all of the turnover. Just like none of Bama's titles has anything to do with their team this year, none of those isolated wins has dick to do with Boise this year. The only way to know if any given year's team is any good is for them to build up many wins over good teams at home and on the road. Until they play a schedule that allows them to build up that sort of resume over the course of a single season its impossible to know if they deserve to be in the discussion for a title.
Posted on 11/27/10 at 1:42 pm to yungtigr
Less than 2 ranked teams a year. Wow I'm inpressed. I am only dissapointed with the fact that they lost because I had gotten my hopes up LSU would play them in the Sugar and wax that arse. Oh well. It would most likely be Ohio St or TCU now so I am hoping for TCU.
Posted on 11/27/10 at 1:51 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
quote:That's the only middie loss to a BCS team in a BCS game. Middies are 4-2 all-time in BCS games (one of those losses was TCU to BSU).
colt brennan sets all sorts of ncaa records.. goes undefeated against that shite competition.. gets absolutely annihilated against a real team in the sugar.. which was what a 2 loss sec school? and he has no nfl career to speak of..
You're right--they just aren't good enough.
Posted on 11/27/10 at 1:52 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
quote:That's actually funny.
i'm just glad tcu and boise will shut the other out now.. so that makes me happy.
Posted on 11/27/10 at 1:52 pm to xiv
so they play on the average less than 2 top 25 teams per year. that is the point i'm making. and usually it's the lower tier top 25. they have a cupcake schedule and there really is no way to defend that. they do not deserve to play for the NC with that type of schedule. if they are the real deal, they should start scheduling better competition and quiet whining like the babies they are.
Posted on 11/27/10 at 1:53 pm to yungtigr
quote:TCU has a mediocre sked. They're in the discussion, and rightfully so. If OSU wins the Civil War, just accept it. TCU will have earned it.
Until they play a schedule that allows them to build up that sort of resume over the course of a single season its impossible to know if they deserve to be in the discussion for a title.
Posted on 11/27/10 at 1:54 pm to crowbar832001
quote:If BSU didn't belong, the big boys would be able to prove it on the field.
Less than 2 ranked teams a year. Wow I'm inpressed.
That's seven 10-win BCS teams. And not a single one has been good enough to beat BSU. Why not?
Posted on 11/27/10 at 1:55 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
quote:Nobody is arguing that the WAC=SEC, but NOBODY=SEC. Not everyone can play in a BCS conference, so they have to settle for what they have. The only way to make it "fair", is to eliminate Conferences all together, and have everyone be an Independent. Hell, some people are even arguing that Oregon doesn't deserve a shot because of how weak the PAC-10 is.
again I hate the wac..
look at what is happenining in the wac..
colt brennan sets all sorts of ncaa records.. goes undefeated against that shite competition.. gets absolutely annihilated against a real team in the sugar.. which was what a 2 loss sec school? and he has no nfl career to speak of..
last year fresno state has like 2 or 3 1000 yard rushers.. that is unheard of..
then nevada's qb and rb just set some ridiculous all time rushing record together.. and to be honest they don't even look that impressive and probably won't amount to much..
and freaking kellen moore is a heisman trophy contender.. just like colt brennan..
it's just disgusting how pathetic the wac is.. and how these teams get to claim all sorts of ncaa records bc of the high school teams they play week in and week out.
I started a thread about a week ago asking if people would support creating a seperate Division from the FBS that consisted of all the non-AQ in the current FBS. They could have their own Bowl games/Playoffs & crown their own Champion. While the AQ would keep their current setup of the BCS(which I'm ok with). I think this would shut some of these whiny fricks up.
Posted on 11/27/10 at 1:56 pm to The Easter Bunny
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AP rankings at the time they played.
Lost your arguement right there. Texas was ranked at one point this season would you consider them in this stat at season's end? It matters where they finished.
Posted on 11/27/10 at 1:58 pm to xiv
quote:
TCU has a mediocre sked. They're in the discussion, and rightfully so. If OSU wins the Civil War, just accept it. TCU will have earned it.
I'm resigned to the fact that that'll happen, that doesn't mean that it ought to be so. I like the idea of rewarding those teams with BCS bowls and the money they bring in. But I just don't think they've done enough on the field to be in the title game.
Posted on 11/27/10 at 2:02 pm to yungtigr
quote:Based on what? Assuming Oregon loses, there are two undefeated teams. How many one-loss teams should be ranked ahead of TCU, and why?
But I just don't think they've done enough on the field to be in the title game.
You'll have to show some pretty comprehensive stats to sell a good argument.
LSU is the strongest one-loss team, of course, based on their SOS, so I would assume that LSU would be the first team you would put above TCU. But isn't it at least arguable that, all things considered, TCU should be ranked ahead of LSU?
This post was edited on 11/27/10 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 11/27/10 at 2:03 pm to ZZTIGERS
quote:
I started a thread about a week ago asking if people would support creating a seperate Division from the FBS that consisted of all the non-AQ in the current FBS. They could have their own Bowl games/Playoffs & crown their own Champion. While the AQ would keep their current setup of the BCS(which I'm ok with). I think this would shut some of these whiny fricks up.
This needs to happen. Maybe get some of the better non AQ teams up into those other conferences like a TCU, Boise, and BYU. Then limit the number of games against that lower division just like they do now. it would up the number of big time cross sectional games, and eliminate or mitigate a ton of the schedule discrepancies that are such a problem right now.
Posted on 11/27/10 at 2:07 pm to yungtigr
So Let's look at those 4 wins:
Utah beat Pitt
Boise State beat Choklahoma
Utah Beat Bama
Boise State beat TCU (non-BCS school).
So against actual BCS schools in those bowls, Non-AQ's are 3-1 with 2 of those wins coming from a Utah team that actually is in a BCS conference now.
Maybe if Boise State Community College had academics worth a shite or even an athletic program outside of football worth a shite, they'd be worthy, but your argument isn't holding much water.
Utah beat Pitt
Boise State beat Choklahoma
Utah Beat Bama
Boise State beat TCU (non-BCS school).
So against actual BCS schools in those bowls, Non-AQ's are 3-1 with 2 of those wins coming from a Utah team that actually is in a BCS conference now.
Maybe if Boise State Community College had academics worth a shite or even an athletic program outside of football worth a shite, they'd be worthy, but your argument isn't holding much water.
Posted on 11/27/10 at 2:07 pm to xiv
quote:
Boise is also still 7-1 vs. BCS teams and in BCS games in that period.
LSU is 8-1 vs BCS teams THIS year....
The WAC has consistently been the 9-10th worst conference the last 4 years.
WHEN they can play more than just 8 BCS teams over a 5 year stretch and still produce the same results, you come get me.
Posted on 11/27/10 at 2:07 pm to xiv
quote:
This is true. It doesn't change the fact that the senior class that is graduating in Boise this spring will have played for one of the ten best football programs in the country.
They have played a horrible schedule their whole career creating a misleading record. You can't honestly think they are a top 10 program.
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