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re: Best Dallas QB: Roger Staubach vs. Troy Aikman?

Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:06 pm to
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:06 pm to
Bledsoe got two teams to a SB one as a starter and one as replacement, that's why I have him ahead of Danny. I feel he was better big game QB.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:12 pm to
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I would consider putting Big Ben ahead of Eli.




it's a legit discussion... the comparison of stats makes it even tougher.


The stats make it a joke Eli isn't in Big Ben's class.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:15 pm to
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Bledsoe got two teams to a SB one as a starter and one as replacement, that's why I have him ahead of Danny


SORRY.. Marino>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bledsoe. ALL DAY LONG.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:18 pm to
What does Marino have to do with the Cowboys? Damn pay attention.
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:19 pm to
Go pass out dummy
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 7:20 pm
Posted by COTiger
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:35 pm to
Damn, Peej got to be watching some Rambo flicks tonight. In the killer mood.

And to the topic Peej, I would rank Montana ahead of Roger and Marino.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:46 pm to
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Damn, Peej got to be watching some Rambo flicks tonight. In the killer mood.



He is an a-hole FLAMER!!!!!!!

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And to the topic Peej, I would rank Montana ahead of Roger and Marino.




Montana had WAY more to work with compared to both to be honest. In 1981 if You put Joe on Tampa Bay , they would still be Tampa BAY. If you Put Roger On Tampa Bay in 1981 they would have done better. In his prime of course.IMO.
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:49 pm to
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Posted by DrVinnyBoombatz
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:51 pm to
The '83-'85 Miami teams were damn good. And remember that the '84 team went 14-2 and Marino threw for 5,000 yards. They just couldn't beat the other good teams in the playoffs. Some would say in '85 they choked before they could play the Bears, a team they had beaten earlier in the season by a score of 38-24. The '85 Chicago Bears.
Posted by COTiger
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:56 pm to
I'll agree that Montana had more to work with than Roger. He was the perfect fit for the Walsh system. Marino put up impressive numbers, but he didn't have the talent Montana or Bradshaw did.

Montan's the #1 QB of all time in my mind.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:58 pm to
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Some would say in '85 they choked before they could play the Bears, a team they had beaten earlier in the season by a score of 38-24. The '85 Chicago Bears.


It would have been a MUCH better SB IMO. BUT AGAIN they could NOT get it done when it counted most.

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And remember that the '84 team went 14-2 and Marino threw for 5,000 yards.


YUP and got DESTROYED BY the 49ners in the SB.
Posted by Zamoro10
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:58 pm to
1) Twice, Marino played with the league's No. 1 scoring defense: his rookie year of 1983 (15.6 points per game), and again in 1998 (16.6 points per game). Of Bradshaw's four title teams, only one boasted the league's best scoring defense.

2) In Marino's record-setting 1984 season, the Dolphins had the No. 1 scoring offense in football and the No. 6 scoring defense (18.6 points per game). The 1990 Dolphins, meanwhile, boasted the league's No. 4 scoring defense, surrendering just 15.1 points per game.

3) In 1983, the Dolphins racked up 2,150 yards on the ground; 1984, the Dolphins still managed 1,918 rushing yards and averaged 4.0 yards per carry during Marino's record breaking year. The Dolphins averaged more than 3.4 yards per rushing attempt 14 times in Marino's 17 seasons.

4) In his 17-year career, Marino played with 55 players named to the Pro Bowl. Marino himself was named a Pro Bowler nine times. That's a remarkable 64 Pro Bowl players, or nearly four for every season Marino spent in the NFL. Four times in Marino's career, the Dolphins boasted five or more Pro Bowl players in a single season. Compare that with New England's two Super Bowl teams, which had a total of just five Pro Bowl players.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:59 pm to
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I'll agree that Montana had more to work with than Roger. He was the perfect fit for the Walsh system. Marino put up impressive numbers, but he didn't have the talent Montana or Bradshaw did.

Montan's the #1 QB of all time in my mind.



YOU having said ALL this is cool. BUT the BEST of ALL-TIME [depending on era]. Is ELWAY.
Posted by DrVinnyBoombatz
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:01 pm to
Well those are some reasons people don't recognize Marino as the GOAT. I personally think 1-3 are all too close to tell. But the one glaring thing that is missing from Marino is SB victories and he had chances, granted those chances fell off dramatically after the '85-'86 season.

Then you have Qbs like Eli who somehow become the most clutch Qb ever in the playoffs. So I've always found it somewhat difficult to rank Qbs accurately.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:06 pm to
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Of Bradshaw's four title teams, only one boasted the league's best scoring defense.



WOW. STOP STAT FREAK. Does it really matter that the Steelers D from like 1972 to 1978 was the MOST REVERED in NFL HISTORY. Take YOUR PUNK STATS AND STICK THEM UP YOUR arse.
Posted by Zamoro10
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:10 pm to
Sure, just keep hanging on to the myth that Marino played with scrubs, never had a defense and did everything himself.
Posted by COTiger
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:10 pm to
I'm obviously a huge Elway fan since I saw him his entire career. However, until he got TD, he was just another Marino or Tarkenton. Impressive numbers, but no rings.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:18 pm to
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However, until he got TD, he was just another Marino or Tarkenton. Impressive numbers, but no rings.


Marino = 1 SB Tark = 3 with a MUCH BETTER CAST than ELWAY had. And GOT beat EACH TIME. Elway was THE modern age Tark.

Posted by dr smartass phd
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:58 pm to
And we take you back to the action

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Posted by ragincajun03
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 10:55 pm to
Definitely a great showing of Roger, but I like this moment in Cowboy's history better.

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