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re: Are these numbers an anomaly?
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:48 am to lpd1975
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:48 am to lpd1975
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One of the biggest pieces of evidence that people present in the Bonds/Roids arguent is the monumental growth of bonds in his late career.
Maris was always skinny. He did not get bigger, ever.
Roids, while not illegal then, were not as prevalent and harder to come by back then. It was freaking 1961 people!
Not all steroids are for bulking up. And I can easily argue that Bonds had more stable and consistently high career numbers than what Maris had.
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Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:53 am to Chad504boy
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Not all steroids are for bulking up.
Then how would those steriods help him hit HRs if they don't "bulk him up"?
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And I can easily argue that Bonds had more stable and consistently high career numbers than what Maris had.
What would be the point of that? We all know that Bonds was a steriod user. It's not like Bonds had another monster hitter in the lineup with him like Maris/Mantle during his most productive HR years.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:58 am to lpd1975
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Then how would those steriods help him hit HRs if they don't "bulk him up"?
It could help him by maintaining strength throughout a long tiresome baseball season. He had more at bats that year than ever in his career. He could have easily been taking something to help him get through.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:03 am to Chad504boy
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It could help him by maintaining strength throughout a long tiresome baseball season.
That's still kind of a reach.
I understand that you are pretty much playing devil's advocate here. If a person wants to find wrongdoing, they can find it. Two people look at the same things and come up with two completely different conclusions based on preconceived notions. I don't see it.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:06 am to lpd1975
Steroids can help bat speed. That is why Maris may not have grown. Palmeiro never got a lot bigger, but he juiced
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:53 am to lpd1975
So lets just run this example:
Roger Maris (if was alive) confessed that during the year he broke the record, he smoked marijauna routinely to help calm him down and help with the nerves of the whole ordeal which thus allowed him to perform better.
You going to throw stones at him of a cheater and erase his numbers off the record books?
Roger Maris (if was alive) confessed that during the year he broke the record, he smoked marijauna routinely to help calm him down and help with the nerves of the whole ordeal which thus allowed him to perform better.
You going to throw stones at him of a cheater and erase his numbers off the record books?
Posted on 2/12/09 at 12:24 pm to Chad504boy
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That's still kind of a reach.
Not at all...HGH primary function in athletes is recovery time. It wont make you stronger or raise your testosterone levels any higher than what would be considered normal.
It cuts recovery time to a minimum, by healing damage inside the muscle tissue and cartlidge. So that you are able to train harder, more often without being sore and so that the daily grind of playing 162 game season is not as taxing on the body.
And how would getting stronger NOT increase bat speed?
Posted on 2/12/09 at 12:28 pm to KBeezy
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Not at all...HGH primary function in athletes is recovery time. It wont make you stronger or raise your testosterone levels any higher than what would be considered normal
That's great and all but, HGH was not a factor in 1961.
BTW, good luck on your next fight KB.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 12:31 pm to Chad504boy
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So lets just run this example:
Roger Maris (if was alive) confessed that during the year he broke the record, he smoked marijauna routinely to help calm him down and help with the nerves of the whole ordeal which thus allowed him to perform better.
You going to throw stones at him of a cheater and erase his numbers off the record books?
I have not advocated erasing any records and I have not been throwing any stones. You have been the stone thrower suggesting that Maris' HR record could be a result of steroid use. With that in mind, what's the point of your little hypothetical there?
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