re: Allstate 400 at The Brickyard.

Oh and by the way I'm not from Minnesota, I'm not some "hockey expert", and I know more about racing than you'll ever forget.

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I know more about racing than you'll ever forget.

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I was waiting for this line to spew. You know what you've heard the announcers comment on during the races. Which is exactly why you have avoided the question or any discussion on it. How many races have you attended. Not that this is a qualification on knowledge of the sport but it is an indication of wether or not you are a casual (which I suspect you are) or passionate fan. I already stated how many 'Dega races I've been to, I've also been to Bristol twice. You probably cant name more than 3 members of the Alabama Gang, if you've even heard about them. Where as I have met and talked racing with Red Farmer. I dont know you and you dont know me but at first glance your racing resume just doesnt stack up. I may not be the know all expert but I bet I know a little more about it than you do.

The Hockey comment was a joke "Relax Francis"

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Archie why do you think the buffer exists.

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I think it exists to give the drivers a "buffer" to get down to pit speed. If pit speed is 35 and they penalized everyone doing 36, that would be lame. In my opinion, all the buffer does is increase pit road speed by 5 mph. So if its 35, I can do 39 without getting the penalty. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

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He's just to damn vanilla for me to really like.

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That is why I'm not sure him winning four will be a good or bad thing. The blandness of today's drivers coupled with that damn COT is killing NASCAR. Something needs to change, but I don't know how they can fix it.

Rusty was talking on the radio the other day about how the cars are to much alike, except for decals. I couldn't agree more. Not only is the COT ugly and uniform, it doesn't make for good racing either.

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Archie why do you think the buffer exists. Wouldnt it take away any gray areas in the rule if it were done away with, especially since the timing equipment is in place.

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The 5 mph buffer is in place because of the fact that the cars run tachs (and even if they ran speedometers) the calibration isn't going to be exact from car to car.

Running a tach that reads engine RPMs to set speeds is even less precise based on gearing, both in the transmission and in the rear end.

The only time that cars are given a chance to calibrate to NASCAR's speed is during the parade laps the pace car runs at pit road speed so that drivers can get a read on their tach at the prescribed pitroad speed. This isn't an exact science though because the further you are from the pace car, the harder it is to gauge your speed - you have to base it off the cars in front of you - which is why the first couple of parade laps are run with the field split into two halves and a second pace car paces the back half of the field at this time.

I'm not saying that NA$CAR doesn't favor some drivers over others - I would have loved to have seen what the outcome would have been at Talladega last fall had it been Smoke passing Smith below the stripe for the win - but to say that the 5 mph buffer is a scapegoat for the tower, that's not true. NASCAR has enough cases of EIRI in the rule book to not need that.

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TV can broadcast from a car with multiple angles, NASCAR can determine the amount of G-forces a driver sustains during a crash, yet drivers and NASCAR still disagree on one of the fundamental stats in racing

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That is because NASCAR limites the teams on the amount of technology they can use. Think about it, those cars are still running carb'd pushrod engines. If NASCAR wanted to let the technology run wild, those cars could be like IRL and F1 cars, have a pit road button that you hit and the car goes on cruise control at that speed.

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Sprint Fun you still havent answered the question. your to busy being defensive of your status. Give an opinion on whether or not NASCAR favors cetain drivers or not, or save yur time posting.

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Of course they do, what kind of stupid arse question is this. Any sport where subjective decisions are passed down will have bias involved. Although I will say since the CoT it hasn't been nearly as bad as it was in the past where certain drivers would get lesser penalties than less renowned drivers for the same incident.

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Now if it were Jr. leading Sunday in that situation do you think the penalty would have been called?

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Yes.

Electronic scoring is a different animal compared to below the yellow line or suspensions.

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No, I'm not saying that. But do you know how a speedometer works? In a car like a NASCAR stock car (without the fancy computers most street cars have today) the speedometer is driven by acable connected to the transmission, and the speed is calibrated based on the speed of the driveshaft. If you change the gear ratios or change trannys, you have to recalibrate, and you don't have the technical ability to do that at the track on race weekend.

The networks get speeds based of the GPS transponders in the cars; these transponders are how the races are scored now, as well as what trips the pit speed traps. NASCAR gets crash data from the blackboxes in the cars. Teams could use the transponders to get accurate speed readings, but NASCAR won't allow it on a race weekend.

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Yes I know how a speedometer works. I also know the reasons teams have no use for them.

I am trying to think of a reason or what kind of advantage could be gained by having a readout on the dash from the transponder that just tells a cars MPH that would make NASCAR not want this info available to drivers and their teams. Maybe I'm not thinking of one but it seems to me that this would clear up one more discrepency between NASCAR and the teams.Possibly NASCAR wants to keep the races as fundemental as possible to maintain some sense of stock car in stock car racing but it seems to be an easy fix to me.

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I've seen Kasey Kahne run sprinters when he was a young teen (and flip them), and Mario Andretti during his final season.

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That would be 1994 would'nt it. I was lucky enough to go to Indy that year. Emo Fittapaldi crashed w/t 4 to go to give Little Al the win. Those two and Paul tracy were running for penske in the mercedes powered cars. Got to stay at a USAC Officials house race weekend. Got into gasoline alley during the race. Mario Walked past me with Paul Newman. Watched most of the race in Raul Boesels garage with his team engineers on the closed circuit tv, and got wieghed on the Indy scales. Pretty cool trip, but I'll take Talladega over Indy any day.