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re: 3rd to 1st now a balk?

Posted on 1/15/13 at 11:34 am to
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61745 posts
Posted on 1/15/13 at 11:34 am to
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if they are gonna make start making balk changes they need to look at the lefty move to 1st. they let them get away with too much. why do they get the advantage?


Righties can use the same advantage...just at third base. Problem is, not many people try to steal home off of a righty in the stretch.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 1/15/13 at 12:17 pm to
During my years in the minors i saw it work plenty times. I doubt you played past jr high.
Posted by d6k
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2005
1484 posts
Posted on 1/15/13 at 1:33 pm to
I've seen Holy Cross pull this off several times over the past two years, and not just against 3A competition.
Posted by motorbreath
New Orleans Saints fan
Member since Jun 2004
6381 posts
Posted on 1/15/13 at 1:50 pm to
Is it still legal when a man is on 3rd?
Posted by The White Lobster
Member since Jul 2009
16764 posts
Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:46 pm to
They are just overriding the special rule that makes this not be a balk. It would've been a balk to begin with if that rule wasn't in place.

And I saw Greg Maddux pull this off in one of the first games I ever watched. Not that there wasn't anything Maddux couldn't pull off
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:54 pm to
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I've seen a good 3rd to 1st move be successful many times. It's just that my view of successful may be different than yours.


It worked once in little league
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61745 posts
Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:56 pm to
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It worked once in little league


Do you think there is any way possible that a baserunner just may have gotten a step slower jump on a steal attempt because his first base coach reminded him, "Watch the 53 move"?

If it helps a catcher throw a runner out, it worked.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41156 posts
Posted on 1/15/13 at 4:16 pm to
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Do you think there is any way possible that a baserunner just may have gotten a step slower jump on a steal attempt because his first base coach reminded him, "Watch the 53 move"?


I'm curious, because of the rule change, if we are going to get a 1-5-4 caught stealing this year.
Posted by Chaz95
Dallas, Texas
Member since Nov 2007
19503 posts
Posted on 1/15/13 at 4:35 pm to
It's definitely in my boy's arsenal, and it has worked for his team. My favorite is the fake other-throw to second, then when the baserunner gets up and runs to third, he gets picked off.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21652 posts
Posted on 1/15/13 at 4:47 pm to
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A pitcher could still perform a pick-off to third by lifting his leg looking like he would be delivering it to the plate and if the baserunner took off too soon the infielders would yell "runner" and the pitcher could still turn and throw the ball to second.


So, this brings up my one question with regards to this. What if the runner on 1st breaks as you describe, and the pitcher stops his throw to third, but instead of continuing to 2nd, the runner heads back to first? Is the pitcher then unable to attempt a throw to first because he already faked to 3rd?
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30353 posts
Posted on 1/15/13 at 6:15 pm to
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I have never seen it work and played baseball through college.


I've seen it work in HS, College, and MLB
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