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What happens if there are no stocks available to fill Keith Gills options?
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:56 am
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:56 am
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:10 am to GhostOfFreedom
$GME #GameStop is up 13% to $30.00 this morning. Still a bargain.
Honestly, this is little guy vs. the goliath. Goliath is made up of a lot of the same corrupt clowns who installed Joe Biden and a lot of the other corrupt establishment Washington freaks.
It is our chance to get back a little against them, but still a lot of people will buy the Jim Cramer / media nonsense, not realizing that they are being played by the PFOF, naked shorting, scum bag, inside traders.
oh, well. Have a nice day, everyone.


Honestly, this is little guy vs. the goliath. Goliath is made up of a lot of the same corrupt clowns who installed Joe Biden and a lot of the other corrupt establishment Washington freaks.
It is our chance to get back a little against them, but still a lot of people will buy the Jim Cramer / media nonsense, not realizing that they are being played by the PFOF, naked shorting, scum bag, inside traders.
oh, well. Have a nice day, everyone.

Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:11 am to GhostOfFreedom
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It is our chance to get back a little against them
LOL
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:39 am to GhostOfFreedom
Unless Gill won a Powerball lottery that I’m not aware of, he apparently doesn’t have enough account equity to actually exercise his ITM call options and take on 12 million (?) GME shares. In fact, unlike many put sellers, most call buyers do not desire to take long shares. Why? Because that would involve taking on additional risk in executing two transactions (exercise the calls and then sell the stock), instead of just one (sell the calls). And by selling the calls prior to expiration, they will still be priced at something above their intrinsic (ITM) value, whereas with an exercise, they simply go out at the original strike price.That wouldn’t be a wise way to maximize trading profits.
The most likely outcome here is that he will “sell to close” his long calls over some period of time.
The most likely outcome here is that he will “sell to close” his long calls over some period of time.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:43 am to Jag_Warrior
Many of us just want to see what happens when a company's float is locked and someone has to buy a lot of shares that nobody wants to sell.
Free Market decides the price per share? That would be nice.
Free Market decides the price per share? That would be nice.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:45 am to Jag_Warrior
But there is equity in his call option’s, the difference of what he bought them at to current prices. With that said, there has to be buyers (bids) for current calls of the stock for him to sell them and collect.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:51 am to GhostOfFreedom
If this is true, this guy is exposing the system for what it really is.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:57 am to boogiewoogie1978
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If this is true, this guy is exposing the system for what it really is.
He didn't have to come back and risk everything. He had more money than most of us would know what to do with. He could get added to a list of great American financial heroes.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:59 am to good_2_geaux
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But there is equity in his call option’s, the difference of what he bought them at to current prices.
Yes, there certainly is equity (profit) in his open ITM long call position(s). But as was detailed by an options market maker yesterday, that equity, plus what Gill showed as his “available funds for trading” in his screenshot, is not enough to purchase all of the shares that he holds rights to by way of his long ITM calls. He may choose to exercise some, but without borrowing, he doesn’t have enough (known) available funds to purchase all or even most.
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With that said, there has to be buyers (bids) for current calls of the stock for him to sell them and collect.
That’s what market makers insure. Dumping a large lot of calls at a particular strike all at once would certainly negatively affect the price. But it is not, and would not be the case that bids would just dry up. That’s not how the options market functions.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:05 am to Jag_Warrior
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(known)
That could be important.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:25 am to GhostOfFreedom
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That could be important.
I agree with that. But just judging by what I’ve learned about his trading strategies over the past few years, he’s not (at least not now) a YOLO amateur who would over concentrate his account with a single long equity.
I’m not judging him to be good or bad as a person. But as a trader, I believe that he’s developed some sharp skills over the past couple of years. And part of that is having an exit strategy (or multiple strategies) going in, and not relying on hopium in the middle of the trade.
Buying calls (or puts) is necessarily speculative in nature. But it’s also one that limits risk to the amount paid for the option. So when people suggest that he would increase his risk and at the same time take less profit by exercising (for some sort of ideological reason) than a sell to close the long calls would give him, that (to me) would be an odd trading strategy.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:48 am to Jag_Warrior
Someone just $771k INTO 6/21 $35C. Kitty? Or, another whale?
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:39 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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this is true, this guy is exposing the system for what it really is.
There is nothing illegal about selling a naked call option

Posted on 6/5/24 at 2:21 pm to GhostOfFreedom
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Someone just $771k INTO 6/21 $35C. Kitty? Or, another whale?
Possibly. No way to immediately tell, unless he decides to divulge that information. It’s also possible that he’s rolled up some part of his original long call position. And he may also decide to take some of his “house money” and roll up and out if he believes this frenzy will continue. But again, no way to tell unless he publicly divulges that.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 2:42 pm to Jag_Warrior
I'm enjoying the absurdity in the system this exposes but framing it as the little guy vs the big guy is ridiculous in my opinion. It's old school influence vs new school influence and social media finance hustling is just as predatory as the establishment, or even worse.
I saw this comment on Superstonk Reddit yesterday on a post saying that the kitty (aka DFV) doesn't have to regularly update what he's doing with his position:
Guys like him are the prey no matter if the predator is a hedge fund or somebody selling trading courses through their Youtube channel.
I saw this comment on Superstonk Reddit yesterday on a post saying that the kitty (aka DFV) doesn't have to regularly update what he's doing with his position:
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Yes, DFV coming back in May was exciting. DFV posting positions sunday was exciting. But I'm still completely zen.
I've been holding for 3.5+ years. I've seen it all. It will happen. Just give it time and trust the process of Ryan Cohen, Keith and GameStop.
I've been poor my whole life. I can wait a little bit longer. I just want to see those rich fricks lose all their wealth.
Guys like him are the prey no matter if the predator is a hedge fund or somebody selling trading courses through their Youtube channel.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 6/5/24 at 3:54 pm to slackster
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There is nothing illegal about selling a naked call option
I never said it was illegal. He is however showing how trading is a house of cards.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 5:58 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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He is however showing how trading is a house of cards.
Derivatives in general are a house of cards. That’s kind of how they work. Notional value of derivative market is like $750 trillion in the world.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:27 pm to slackster
quote:maybe he is showing how he made a boat load of money for other traders to use on other stocks when the market continues on as normal and nothing changes.
There is nothing illegal about selling a naked call optio
Use the same strategy going forward elsewhere
=stock market dies
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:49 pm to DJ3K
MOASS tomorrow!
Or, maybe it will be the next day. Anyway, HODL. How is it wrong to buy and hold in a company you like and support?
Or, maybe it will be the next day. Anyway, HODL. How is it wrong to buy and hold in a company you like and support?
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