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re: Weekend thoughts: a hydrogen economy
Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:28 pm to Auburn1968
Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:28 pm to Auburn1968
Still browsing on the concept.
LINK 2012 "car" prototype
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By using hydrazine hydrate, which consists of only hydrogen and nitrogen, as the fuel, and developing new materials for the electrode catalyst, Daihatsu achieved both an output density of 0.50 W/cm2, which is comparable to the output of a hydrogen fuel cell, and zero emissions, with water and nitrogen being the only substances emitted.
Hydrazine hydrate is a liquid fuel, easy to handle during filling and its energy density is high. Furthermore, as an environmentally friendly synthetic fuel, hydrazine hydrate results in no CO2 emissions at all. At the same time, high-concentration hydrazine hydrate is designated as a poisonous substance (over 30% concentration) and it must be handled under the same safety standards applicable to gasoline and most industrial chemicals.
LINK 2012 "car" prototype
Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:33 pm to Auburn1968
After some searching in early 2017, I learned the following manufacturers are testing FCEVs: Alfa-Romeo, Audi, AvtoVAZ-Lada, Bentley, BMW, FiatChrysler, Ford, General Motors (various divisions), Honda, Hyundai, (both in production now) Jeep, Kawasaki, Kia, London Taxi and Bus Co., Lotus, Mahindra, Maserati, McLaren, Mazda, Mercedes-Benz, Mitsubishi, Morgan, Opel, Peugeot, Porsche, Renault-Nissan, Seat, Skoda, Suzuki, Tata, Toyota, (in production now), Vauxhall, Volkswagen, Volvo + a number of original Chinese automakers (other than joint ventures), as well as bus and truck manufacturers belonging to the Daimler and VW Groups — that is almost every car and bike maker on this planet. With absolute certainty, I missed several, especially in China. — Which one will be the next in a dealership showroom?
FCEVs are the future in transportation; EVs are more expensive to mass-manufacture than fuel cell cars, according to Toyota.
Remember Churchill’s Quote? “A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.”
LINK the hydrogen car show
Posted on 11/11/20 at 1:27 pm to TigerCrude
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This ain’t it chief. Math is hard. Science is hard. Leave it to the professionals.
Gallon is a defined volume. You can physically fit more pure H2 In that volume than you can N2H4. At the same conditions meaning same phase. Nitrogen will take up space that hydrogen would take up other wise.
Density of liquid hydrogen: 0.07 g/mL
Density of liquid hydrazine: 1.02 g/mL (0.13 g H/mL, 0.89 g N/mL)
Liquid H2 has a very low density, and hydrazine does indeed contain almost twice as much hydrogen per unit volume. With the added benefit that it doesn’t require cryogenic storage.
OTOH, hydrazine has a higher upper explosive limit (UEL), lower LEL, and lower autoignition temperature than hydrogen. None of these are good things when it comes to storage.
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Math is hard. Science is hard. Leave it to the professionals.
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