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Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:13 am
Posted by kjntgr
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8843 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:13 am
My part time retirement job boss is wanting to pay us as subcontractors whats the pros and cons to this?
Posted by lsu for the win
Member since Jun 2022
1589 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:27 am to
Con is self employment tax
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29308 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:00 am to
Con: It's more bullshite you personally have to deal with in regards to tax. If they have any benefits, you can kiss those goodbye.

Pros: Very little from an employee standpoint.

My personal opinion as a business owner: A lot of times it makes financial sense for the company to do this, but it comes at a cost to morale and growth of the company. With some exceptions, as a contractor, the company looks at you as a number and cog in the machine and not a person with potential for advancement. A company that cares for it's employees will employ them and invest in their future. That's all my opinion. I'm in a couple CEO groups and some of us disagree on this. Seems to vary by industry, too.

Since you're doing this as a part-time retirement thing, you may not give a shite about any of that other than the tax implications. I'd at least negotiate a contract that includes more pay to cover the time and value of the increased tax burden.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21698 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:24 am to
quote:

My part time retirement job boss is wanting to pay us as subcontractors whats the pros and cons to this?


Negotiate a raise to pay your share of payroll tax.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25202 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:50 am to
Pro is you can deduct business expenses. Con is self employment tax
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20812 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:54 am to
FYI, a company can't just decide a worker is a subcontractor. There is a "checklist" to determine whether or not a person would qualify as an employee or a subcontractor
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25905 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 11:24 am to
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FYI, a company can't just decide a worker is a subcontractor. There is a "checklist" to determine whether or not a person would qualify as an employee or a subcontractor


All this
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21698 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:28 pm to
Also, if they are treating you as a subcontractor, you should bill them at full market rate (not your salary).

For example, an engineer may make say $150k/yr or roughly $70ish/hr, but his firm will bill them out at $175/hr.

If they want to treat you like a sub you should get paid like one.
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