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Secure Act 2.0 some discussion of Emergency Saving - seems in adequate

Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:59 am
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42055 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:59 am
CNBC - Emergency Savings

So the point of emergency saving is to prevent people raiding 401k but $2,500 seems too small. 10% penalty is unnecessary to me. I guess trying to force people to save but seems like a small amount

I think having emergency fund account and giving tax break for maintaining certain level would be interesting

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Workers would be able to save up to $2,500 in the account, and any excess contributions would automatically go to a linked 401(k) plan account at the company.


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The other Senate proposal takes a different approach: It would let workers withdraw up to $1,000 from their 401(k) or individual retirement account to cover emergency expenses without having to pay the typical 10% tax penalty for early withdrawal if they are under age 59½.
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 11:08 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:07 am to
So employers will opt employees into the plan and the employees who don’t have a savings will turn around and opt out. Brilliant.

By and large, people who don’t have an emergency savings are actively trying not to have one. It’s not like they’re unaware they should have some money saved for emergencies.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42055 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:11 am to
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So employers will opt employees into the plan and the employees who don’t have a savings will turn around and opt out. Brilliant.


Which honestly if your company matches why wouldn't you do this pay 10% penalty and profit.


Also I love question how many are comfortable with savings. Me being comfortable doesn't mean I should be.

I probably have more then average but think my cash balance is too low
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32765 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:17 am to
I like that first option, but doubt many people who don’t have emergency savings would take advantage. Financial competency is hard for a lot of people apparently. The nice part is the bar is so low to get ahead of others and move up if you are competent
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42055 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:25 am to
I don't like forced default contribution going to be nightmare for payroll
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1800 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:25 am to
Legislating personal responsibility is kind of an oxymoron, isn’t it?

Wouldn’t want to focus on educating people on finances, let’s just forgive some loans and auto-enroll them and everything will turn out ok!

(Actually auto-enroll 401k works really well as a feature)
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:50 am to
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Actually auto-enroll 401k works really well as a feature)


Yeah, but you can’t really use those funds without a qualifying event. Alternatively, the “emergency savings” option doesn’t seem like you’ll have to prove anything to use it. People will just draft from it at will.
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