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Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:52 pm to TortiousTiger
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public admin masters
Well that was a waste of money.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:57 pm to TRUSAINT21
My 2 cents.
I'd pay him $45,000 annual with benefits and reevaluate in 1 year. He needs more direct experience before I would bump him up another $20,000. CPA certificate will make him more marketable.
But if the guy is mature, working hard, and making good decisions. He might get a review after six months.
I wonder if the OP's business is profitable? Oilfield service is generally profitable right now, but if he is working for a boat company, maybe not. If business isn't good, not a good chance for a raise.
I'd pay him $45,000 annual with benefits and reevaluate in 1 year. He needs more direct experience before I would bump him up another $20,000. CPA certificate will make him more marketable.
But if the guy is mature, working hard, and making good decisions. He might get a review after six months.
I wonder if the OP's business is profitable? Oilfield service is generally profitable right now, but if he is working for a boat company, maybe not. If business isn't good, not a good chance for a raise.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 7:59 pm to TortiousTiger
Makes you wonder why they're taking a 35k job. Don't tell me its the job market/economy, I just found a new job and got an enormous raise with barely a year of experience, and accounting jobs are always out there, especially if you can throw Harvard at someone. ETA: I'm not trying to pick on you, you just posed an interesting situation that I'm curious now.
This post was edited on 9/21/11 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 9/22/11 at 11:53 am to kfizzle85
Maybe. Just maybe. The said Coonass Harvard grad is a booger-eating, snarf with little to no ambition. Those types do exist.
Pimping a golden ticket isn't always worth what some think it is......I've managed projects with Ivy League armed boobs who couldn't pour piss out of a boot without instuctions on the bottom. Seriously.
Pimping a golden ticket isn't always worth what some think it is......I've managed projects with Ivy League armed boobs who couldn't pour piss out of a boot without instuctions on the bottom. Seriously.
This post was edited on 9/22/11 at 11:55 am
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:07 pm to kfizzle85
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ETA: I'm not trying to pick on you,
i dont care.
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Makes you wonder why they're taking a 35k job.
of course. i'm sure some of these types are fighting the stigma of them leaving the minute something better comes along. I'm sure some of it is social skills and a lack of networking since being away for so long.
in the end, it's an entry level job. If the person does well, they'll either move up or move on... if they do not so well, they'll move on or get buried.
Charles, there is no magic ticket in life. There are idiots everywhere; however, these shorts of things are quality indicators and help to quantify the unquantifiable.
This post was edited on 9/22/11 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:23 pm to yellowfin
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specifically petroleum engineers
Finance is at the bottom of it's cycle and petroleum is near the top of it's historical cycle. Even with that, they are making 35-30% more than me in a job with way less job security and a much lower long term ceiling. The guys that in my office with 5 years experience are laughing at the salary of a petroleum engineer with 5 years experience, and I'm not in a particularly high paying sector of finance.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:29 pm to TortiousTiger
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Charles, there is no magic ticket in life. There are idiots everywhere; however, these shorts of things are quality indicators and help to quantify the unquantifiable.
.....you hired someone who makes significantly less than my admin assistant who has but a diploma, yet they have a harvard tie in their closet. I'd say that alone likely stamps the person in question a destined bottom feeder.....
I know someone in accounting that is looking at a $50K+ entry level job offer unfold with ZERO experience. Alas, her interview must have "quantified" her because she lacks an Ivy League degree.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:31 pm to TheHiddenFlask
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The guys that in my office with 5 years experience are laughing at the salary of a petroleum engineer with 5 years experience, and I'm not in a particularly high paying sector of finance.
Don't mind me asking, what do you do? Finance is awfully ambigous.....
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:35 pm to CharlesLSU
I'd take a PE career over a finance career any day of the week from a quality of life perspective. For the record, I work in finance.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:43 pm to CharlesLSU
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Finance is awfully ambigous.....
Commercial lending.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:44 pm to kfizzle85
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I'd take a PE career over a finance career any day of the week from a quality of life perspective. For the record, I work in finance.
7 and 7 with no job security doesn't sound that appealing to me.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:45 pm to TheHiddenFlask
I think you need to talk to those guys with 5 years experience again cause I have friends with 10 that still don't make what entry level PE do.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 1:09 pm to TheHiddenFlask
Given that what this firm does is like 80% O&G-related, I've got no more job security than they do. If they get laid off, I'm getting laid off too. Working 7-7 and getting off Friday once every two weeks > 12-13 hours a day and occasionally a few hours on Saturday.
IMO of course.
IMO of course.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 1:26 pm to CharlesLSU
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.....you hired someone who makes significantly less than my admin assistant who has but a diploma, yet they have a harvard tie in their closet.
so? Most assistants who got their jobs a gazzillion years ago make more money than an entry level worker today. How does that matter in the least?
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I'd say that alone likely stamps the person in question a destined bottom feeder....
good for you. for every one of these "bottom feeders" I'll get 500 resumes similar to the one in the OP.
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I know someone in accounting that is looking at a $50K+ entry level job offer unfold with ZERO experience.
good for you. I love this reasoning. you win at logic.
I guess the person will be a bottom feeder for life because they got paid 15k less than someone you know in their first professional job.
good grief.
no wonder everyone thinks you're a douche.
This post was edited on 9/22/11 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 9/22/11 at 1:59 pm to yellowfin
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I think you need to talk to those guys with 5 years experience again cause I have friends with 10 that still don't make what entry level PE do.
There's major dislocations in commercial lending. I'm out of the range of anything shown on salary.com.
I can see it with my own two eyes. The pay is much better here than in engineering for pretty acceptable work hours.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 3:51 pm to TortiousTiger
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no wonder everyone thinks you're a douche.
first of all, I give two fricks what the freeknet thinks of me.....and that includes you monkey dick.
secondly, you're the one brandashing your low-paid Ivy Leaguer while jabbing at PetEs.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 3:54 pm to TheHiddenFlask
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I can see it with my own two eyes. The pay is much better here than in engineering for pretty acceptable work hours.
Want to hear something depressing? I am a Civil PE armed with a 32-hr work week, old fashion/financially sound/employee-loving employer, 6-figure salary (out of my range too
), and a totally free company ride......I'll take my quality of life over yours any day. How ya' like dem apples? This post was edited on 9/22/11 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 9/22/11 at 3:55 pm to CharlesLSU
This thread reminds me of:
Posted on 9/22/11 at 3:56 pm to kfizzle85
look, I know I come off as dick here sometimes, but this guy is full of himself/shite.
ETA: yes, this thread has become as enjoyable as a poo cramp.
ETA: yes, this thread has become as enjoyable as a poo cramp.
This post was edited on 9/22/11 at 3:58 pm
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