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Question about converting to Roth IRA
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:04 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:04 am
Friends,
I note the paperwork for converting a traditional IRA to Roth IRA includes the language “one time only.”
Does this mean a person can only convert the money from a traditional IRA once in a lifetime? Or does one need to open a new traditional IRA account each and every year before converting? That would seem to be a waste of time and paperwork, but as the language stands with the one time only conversion, is creating a new traditional IRA account each year before converting the safe thing to do?
Yours,
TulaneLSU
I note the paperwork for converting a traditional IRA to Roth IRA includes the language “one time only.”
Does this mean a person can only convert the money from a traditional IRA once in a lifetime? Or does one need to open a new traditional IRA account each and every year before converting? That would seem to be a waste of time and paperwork, but as the language stands with the one time only conversion, is creating a new traditional IRA account each year before converting the safe thing to do?
Yours,
TulaneLSU
Posted on 1/25/21 at 10:10 pm to TulaneLSU
Friends,
Any answers would be appreciated.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
Any answers would be appreciated.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
Posted on 1/25/21 at 10:32 pm to TulaneLSU
You can do a conversion once per year.
Watch out for pro rata penalties. You might need to roll any traditional or similar ira funds that you are not converting into a 401k or equivalent to avoid a nasty surprise. And you can find good descriptions of this sort of thing on the white coat investor. If you are still confused seek help from a tax accountant.
If you screw up please make a TulaneLSU top ten ways the IRS sodomized you.
Watch out for pro rata penalties. You might need to roll any traditional or similar ira funds that you are not converting into a 401k or equivalent to avoid a nasty surprise. And you can find good descriptions of this sort of thing on the white coat investor. If you are still confused seek help from a tax accountant.
If you screw up please make a TulaneLSU top ten ways the IRS sodomized you.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 12:22 am to TulaneLSU
quote:
Beginning after January 1, 2015, you can make only one rollover from an IRA to another (or the same) IRA in any 12-month period, regardless of the number of IRAs you own. The one-per year limit does not apply to: rollovers from traditional IRAs to Roth IRAs (conversions) trustee-to-trustee transfers to another IRA.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:42 am to nctiger71
Friend,
Does that language mean that one can convert funds or equities from a traditional IRA to Roth IRA as many times in a year as one wants?
A second question: does it matter if the holdings in the IRA are cash or stocks when the conversion happens? Normally, at the beginning of the year I put cash into a traditional IRA. I then mail to my firm the paperwork to convert the cash in my traditional to a Roth. This year I put 6,000 into BB stock before the conversion happened. That 6,000 is now worth about 15,000. I have not sold any BB and it is all stock still. I plan to sell that stock this week and keep it in cash. If I convert in the next few weeks that cash (15,000) to a Roth IRA, will all the profit, when in decades I take out the money from the IRA, be tax free? To note, I am not going to claim any tax deductions from that traditional IRA this year.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
Does that language mean that one can convert funds or equities from a traditional IRA to Roth IRA as many times in a year as one wants?
A second question: does it matter if the holdings in the IRA are cash or stocks when the conversion happens? Normally, at the beginning of the year I put cash into a traditional IRA. I then mail to my firm the paperwork to convert the cash in my traditional to a Roth. This year I put 6,000 into BB stock before the conversion happened. That 6,000 is now worth about 15,000. I have not sold any BB and it is all stock still. I plan to sell that stock this week and keep it in cash. If I convert in the next few weeks that cash (15,000) to a Roth IRA, will all the profit, when in decades I take out the money from the IRA, be tax free? To note, I am not going to claim any tax deductions from that traditional IRA this year.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:59 am to TulaneLSU
You can transfer in kind. Fidelity alllows you to do this online by simply doing a transfer between the two accounts and selecting not to withhold taxes. I assume most of the major financial institutions allow the same.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 12:17 pm to TulaneLSU
quote:I believe it does but I am not a financial advisor.
Does that language mean that one can convert funds or equities from a traditional IRA to Roth IRA as many times in a year as one wants?
I have a traditional IRA & a Roth; they are both in my name. For the past 6 years we have moved (converted, rollover, all the same) funds from the Trad IRA to the Roth. Usually we (by we I mean the financial advisor) would move $ more than once/year. That’s because we didn’t want to move too much and get pushed into the 22% (was 25%) marginal tax bracket. If we stayed in the 12% bracket long term cap gains are taxed at 0%. We would not have a good guess what the ltcg would be till near year’s end. LTCG were not from an IRA.
I don’t think it matters what the $ are invested in; cash, stocks, mutual funds, etc.
I assume you’re aware that moving $ out of the traditional IRA; regardless of what you do with the $, is a taxable event. How much you owe in taxes depends on many factors and not the least of which is total income.
Once in the Roth they can be withdrawn without creating a taxable event.
I would think your financial institution could answer any questions and explain the tax ramifications; although they will probably tell you they do not give tax advice.
Edit: if you made the initial contribution to the traditional IRA w/ after tax dollars then I think you just pay taxes on the gain ($15k - $6k = $9k taxable). But I’m not a CPA either.
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 1:57 pm
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