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Puts on Europe?

Posted on 8/30/22 at 5:04 pm
Posted by wheelr
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 5:04 pm
Nearly every day there is a thread on the front page of Reddit with people talking about huge negative consequences still coming due to high energy prices.

Example:
https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/x1dtjj/genuinely_worried_about_energy_prices/

I have very little knowledge on European or international markets, only having experience with VXUS (has super low volume options chain). Are there any good liquid ETFs I should be looking for? Trade on TD Ameritrade if that matters.
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 5:46 pm to
Look at the ishares that begin with “E” - tend to catch lots of those regions and you can pick and choose the ones you think may struggle most

Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 6:22 pm to
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Nearly every day there is a thread on the front page of Reddit with people talking about huge negative consequences still coming due to high energy prices


Because they're waiting on the winter when energy use is at its peak.
Posted by Triple Bogey
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Member since May 2017
6572 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 6:32 pm to
Europe is fricked. Germany is probably in the worst shape of all the EU countries when it comes to energy prices. We may see a recession.. It looks like depression for most of them. Their inflation is mainly all due to energy/nat gas rising due to their dependence on Russian oil and gas. They really made a bad problem worse with all of their sanctimonious sanctions.
Posted by wheelr
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Member since Jul 2012
5880 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:23 pm to
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Look at the ishares that begin with “E” - tend to catch lots of those regions and you can pick and choose the ones you think may struggle most



Thanks. I took a quick look and those may work, though there isn't much volume and they have big spreads.

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They really made a bad problem worse with all of their sanctimonious sanctions


Yeah, it seems everyone in the Reddit threads are blaming everything except years of bad energy policy. I know that isn't really the place to get mainstream views but that is why I'm interested in this.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1605 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:57 am to
I’d be looking to short anyone in the non-essential European industry sector. Those will be the first and most heavily cut. Next would be regional retail chains most dependent on middle and lower class consumer spending. They’re going to get demolished in due time.

I’d say you’re probably still early to the party to put on a position for maximum return, but you’ve got the right idea.
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