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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by LZ83
La
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:18 pm to
Take 25% out of ICX now?
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:21 pm to
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What do you do, though, if you leave it in for years? I mean, again, you've technically gained nothing until you've cashed it out.
correct,you do nothing. Gains/losses aren't realized until you sell
Posted by S1C EM
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:21 pm to
BTW, we were talking earlier about the "dusting" of fractions of ETH and that got me to thinking. If someone bought less than one unit of ETH and converted to ICX or VEN, then converted back and it still didn't equal one unit of ETH, would they lose everything?
Posted by S1C EM
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:22 pm to
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correct,you do nothing. Gains/losses aren't realized until you sell


Posted by Tiguar
Montana
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:23 pm to
The IRS treats it as property right now, I think.

It would be like paying taxes on winning a sports car or something; you still have to pay tax on the cash value.

I plan on paying capital gains off my coinbase in vs out. If I get a letter saying thats not enough, I'll handle it as it comes. Main thing is to show intent to be compliant.
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:25 pm to
No, you can send/receive fractions from binance. But trading intraexchange is a different story.
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:26 pm to
Took a little off the gains of ICX just now. Fingers crossed that was the right move
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 2:28 pm
Posted by trux83LSU
brandon, ms
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:30 pm to
yeah i'm not sure whats going on with that. thinking of dumping now and rebuying later and picking up some extra
Posted by LZ83
La
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:33 pm to
Well shite. Now it’s going up again.
Posted by S1C EM
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:34 pm to
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It would be like paying taxes on winning a sports car or something; you still have to pay tax on the cash value.


But again, you don't do anything with it as long as it's sitting in CB, right? It's only if you cash out?
Posted by trux83LSU
brandon, ms
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:34 pm to
yeah im watching it like a hawk right now. its gonna drop again its just a matter of when
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:35 pm to
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No, you can send/receive fractions from binance. But trading intraexchange is a different story.


SO the fraction just stays in Binance as ETH.....meaning you'll have your VEN/ICX balance and also a slight balance of ETH, too?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:36 pm to
You still own the property. There was some non-sense rolling around about having to report quarterly to be in complete compliance.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:43 pm to
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You still own the property.


Hmmm.....but my principal investment was already taxed before I bought the ETH. Currently, ETH is only worth about $40 more than when I bought in.

quote:

There was some non-sense rolling around about having to report quarterly to be in complete compliance.


Wut?
Posted by trux83LSU
brandon, ms
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 3:03 pm to
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Well shite. Now it’s going up again.
sold at 8950 have a buyback order at 8000
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 3:24 pm to
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Hmmm.....but my principal investment was already taxed before I bought the ETH..


Welcome to libertarianism. Enjoy your stay.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 3:30 pm to
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Welcome to libertarianism. Enjoy your stay.


So you're saying I owe tax on whatever the ETH is currently worth? I mean, what date and time do you even pick to report that?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 3:52 pm to
My 700k VEN buy (back) order just filled. Got me a free half ETH for my troubles today.
Posted by maclauer
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:01 pm to
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So you're saying I owe tax on whatever the ETH is currently worth?

This is not the case. Only trades to other coins or to fiat are taxable events.

There is no tax incurred on initial purchase(s) and holding of crypto.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:22 pm to
This is correct. I am saying he is technically responsible for appreciated eth even if it's not cashed out, which is bullshite
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