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Posted on 5/27/25 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 5:17 pm to
Good read, thanks.
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 5:27 pm to
The longer we stay in this pattern of steadily grinding higher with consistent strong accumulation taking place, the more explosive the movement will be when real mania shows up.
Posted by I Love Bama
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:50 pm to
I'm not sure mania is coming. Google searches for Bitcoin are near all time los. Retail is not buying. Maybe they get interested again at 150k but i would not bet on it.
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:17 pm to
Yeah I’m thinking if there is another mania it’s an upper/upper middle class mania instead of a degen retail mania. Most likely ETF-driven.
Posted by Hateradedrink
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:02 am to
2028 is a difficult year to gauge because of where it’s at in a cycle but in general:

Floor 60k~

Peak 180-250k~ (harder because this cycle isn’t done yet)

If you’re really asking about 2028 specifically, then I think the range will be 50k-80k

This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 9:07 am
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 11:13 am to
Posted by David_DJS
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

If you’re really asking about 2028 specifically, then I think the range will be 50k-80k

So I'm clear - you see BTC trading between $50K and $80K for the year 2028?
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 4:42 pm to
The power law that bitcoin trades in has been remarkably accurate at predicting future trading ranges. For example, the power law fair price projection for today is $97,651 and the floor price is $41,013. The upper bound would be roughly $350K I think but that is less relevant/predictable. That’s like a max blowoff top range.

Anyways, for May 29, 2028 the floor price is around $100K-$110k and the projected fair price is close to $250K. The very upper bound at that point in time is between $800k-$1M.
Posted by Hateradedrink
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 4:49 pm to
That’s my guess. 2028 is around a “cryptowinter” type time frame. 50-80 is probably too pessimistic but it’s hard to be thinking about next cycle high/lows without knowing how this one ends.

Beaver mentioned the power law chart which has been accurate but seems to be increasingly less so, I think it overestimates
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 5:04 pm to
Props to Ryan Cohen for being open minded but he completely whiffed on the execution of his buying.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:24 pm to
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I think we need have a discussion about the Genius Act. There is a trade coming soon.

When these major banks are given the green light to develop their own stable coins, who are the winners and losers here?

How do we make money?


Can I try and shill you on Ethereum again
Posted by I Love Bama
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 9:12 am to
LOL.
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:34 pm to
I don’t buy this sell off. Higher.
Posted by I Love Bama
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:14 pm to
There is a Bitcoin whale who the market makers have destroyed in the last week. The whale is down like 80 million.

Once he is wiped out i think we can start moving again.

Although there has been more quantum news today....
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:56 pm to
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Although there has been more quantum news today....
Didn't see this, gonna have to look. What’s your general quantum view concerning btc?
Posted by I Love Bama
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 5:07 pm to
It's going to be a real problem and we should start working on solutions pretty soon.

Anything that gives people hesitation to own/buy should be dealt with quickly.
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 5:17 pm to
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Anything that gives people hesitation to own/buy should be dealt with quickly.
I think this is key. I don’t think a quantum computer would ever be used to attack bitcoin but as long as it floats out there it’s an issue. It seems like a hard fork is in the future.

We should change the primary unit denomination while we’re at it although I’m not sure that requires much, if any actual change to the protocol.
This post was edited on 5/29/25 at 5:31 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 5:25 pm to
Outside of say offline nuclear security systems, everything will need to be upgraded for quantum computers. I see no problem with it happening. The resources needed to pull it off are insane at the moment, and security upgrades aren't a big deal to implement if someone announces a breakthrough.
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 5:35 pm to
I don’t even know what market quantum computing is addressing. What is the use case?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:21 pm to
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What is the use case?


Think of it like the jump from vacuum tubes to today's modern supercomputers. The computational throughput is orders of magnitude higher than what we have today. You'll see it initially applied to AI, scientific, financial, and yes, cryptographic fields.
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