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New job...Rolling over 401k w/ a loan balance?

Posted on 9/11/18 at 6:36 pm
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
16877 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 6:36 pm
Started a new job, and i want to roll over my 401k from old job to new job.

I took out a small loan against my 401k at my old job a few months ago, that i was paying back (out of weekly paycheck), and still have a balance.

How do i go about rolling the 401k over from my old job to new job with me still having a small balance needing to be paid off?


Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7902 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 6:41 pm to
Pay off the balance immediately. Leaving jobs usually means it's due in full.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
5713 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 6:49 pm to
If you don't pay the balance before you leave, it counts as an early withdrawal and will have associated tax penalties.
Posted by TchoupitoulasTiger
NOLA
Member since May 2011
1222 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 7:07 pm to
Depends on your plans rules. I was in a similar situation as you but as long as I keep making payments on the loan everything is good. Here’s another thing though, I can’t roll my old 401k into my new employer’s 401k plan or an IRA until the loan is paid back without it being an early withdrawal.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82034 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

If you don't pay the balance before you leave, it counts as an early withdrawal and will have associated tax penalties.
most likely, but it deoends. He needs to contact his 401k administrator and find out exactly in his case.
But yeah most of the time that money is due immediately.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20026 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:01 am to
You probably want to pay it off. It will likely be treated as a deemed distribution at the time of rollover and taxes will be due. Check your plan document to be sure of how this is treated.

I’ve never heard of rolling over a loan and deal with 401k plans a good bit. Lots of plans don’t even allow loans so you would need knowledge of the plan you are rolling into to be sure
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:07 am to
quote:

You probably want to pay it off. It will likely be treated as a deemed distribution at the time of rollover and taxes will be due. Check your plan document to be sure of how this is treated. 

I’ve never heard of rolling over a loan and deal with 401k plans a good bit. Lots of plans don’t even allow loans so you would need knowledge of the plan you are rolling into to be sure






I agree with this.


It's unlikely, but if your plan allows the loan to continue after separation then just keep paying down the loan and wait to roll it over once it's all paid back.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20026 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:21 am to
Good point. You can more than likely delay rollover until the loan is paid back. But your current employer will not be able to defer payroll to pay back the loan, so would need to check to see if funds could be put in manually to pay back.

Point is every plan is different and has different rules. You will need to speak with the plan administrator to be sure
Posted by swanny297
NELA
Member since Oct 2013
2189 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 6:46 pm to
When I switched jobs I was able to continue paying on my loan without any penalties depends on plan like others have said
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