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re: New Crypto Launching In 2023 – PulseChain

Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:29 am to
Posted by acesfull18
Member since Dec 2020
28 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:29 am to
I received a free airdrop pulsedogecoin just a few weeks ago and cashed out thousands from it.

Bitcoin holders were airdropped free hex and the amount that was claimed is worth over 500 million dollars now. All because someone owned something else and made a Free claim.

Ponzi scheme ? Most people’s minds are made up so I’m not even going to debate that

but I will ask what investments can we make that do not need people willing to continually buy it and hopefully for more than we paid for it to make money?

This is a sincere question I would love to find out what I can invest in to make a lot of money that doesn’t require more people buying for a higher price. That is something I want to invest in!!!!!

Posted by Chuckiee
Member since Jan 2007
2567 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:58 am to
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This is a sincere question I would love to find out what I can invest in to make a lot of money that doesn’t require more people buying for a higher price. That is something I want to invest in!!!!!


Get ready for crickets. None of these guys screaming ponzi ever come back to answer this question.
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
1939 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 10:03 am to
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but I will ask what investments can we make that do not need people willing to continually buy it and hopefully for more than we paid for it to make money?
Amazon..Oh wait...Google..Oh wait...Apple..Oh wait.

Everything requires new investors. Newsflash!!
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
81712 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:06 pm to
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Everything requires new investors. Newsflash!!
Once my mind wrapped around this for the first time 6 months ago, I started asking the question on here about other assets and no one answers. PMs, real estate, non-dividend stocks, etc. All require new investors money to make the investment go up. It made me realize we throw the word "ponzi scheme" around way too much and that the entire economy is by definition a ponzi, requiring new money to come in to increase the value of one's investment.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56907 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:18 pm to
I mean like

I don’t think anybody ever got rich by investing. The real winners got rich by scamming people

Like Jeff bezos and Elon musk

And Richard hex
Posted by Chuckiee
Member since Jan 2007
2567 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:22 pm to
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Grievous Angel

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j1897

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MikeHatesPETA

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cable


We are still waiting for one of you to answer this question
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but I will ask what investments can we make that do not need people willing to continually buy it and hopefully for more than we paid for it to make money?

You guys do nothing but come in the crypto threads and spew negative and false information. Once you are confronted and asked to explain yourself, you run off until the next post or thread is posted. Then it's rinse and repeat with the same inaccurate talking points. As I have stated multiple times in multiple threads, you guys don't own crypto and hate to see others being successful in it. It's easy to throw out the ponzi narrative but you don't ever back it up. So please, one of you come back and answer the question.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3935 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:48 pm to
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what investments can we make that do not need people willing to continually buy it and hopefully for more than we paid for it to make money?



Stocks, bonds, t-bills, real estate, pretty much any reasonable investment.


Was that a serious fricking question?




wow
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
1939 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:05 pm to
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Stocks, bonds, t-bills, real estate, pretty much any reasonable investment.
WTH

Time to mute this guy.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56907 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:14 pm to
Can y’all teach me how to hopium
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3935 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:14 pm to
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WTH

Time to mute this guy.



Figured you crypto guys would be so rich, you wouldn't have time for message boards. Do you have starlink on your yacht or something?
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11230 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:23 pm to
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Stocks, bonds, t-bills, real estate, pretty much any reasonable investment.


Was that a serious fricking question?




wow


Holy cow. I hope you are letting a company manage your 401k.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57967 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:26 pm to
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what investments can we make that do not need people willing to continually buy it and hopefully for more than we paid for it to make money?



Stocks, bonds, t-bills, real estate, pretty much any reasonable investment.


Was that a serious fricking question?




wow
wait.... are you joking. are you telling me that if you buy a stock, it just magically goes up? It is not because someone after you is willing to pay more than you did for it?


is that a serious fricking response?
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3935 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:31 pm to
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wait.... are you joking. are you telling me that if you buy a stock, it just magically goes up?



A huge portions of my holdings i don't really care if they go up or down. I get thousands per month in dividends, which is the return on my investment. The fact that you guys don't understand this concept is very revealing.
Posted by Chuckiee
Member since Jan 2007
2567 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:33 pm to
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are you telling me that if you buy a stock, it just magically goes up


or when you go to sell your house, are you looking to sell for a loss? or is the goal to sell it to someone willing to pay more than you did?
Posted by Tower_Tiger12
Member since Jan 2021
983 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:33 pm to
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Stocks, bonds, t-bills, real estate, pretty much any reasonable investment.


Was that a serious fricking question?




wow



Is this a serious response? How do you expect to get any capital out of real estate or the stock market without someone buying your shares, house or paying rent on a property you own? It is the principle that every market has operated on.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 1:38 pm
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3935 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:37 pm to
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How do you expect to get any capital out of real estate or the stock market without someone buying your shares, house or paying rent on a property you own?


Well like i said, dividends. This is pretty elementary stuff.


Also by saying your real estate doesn't increase in value because you aren't selling it is grossly misrepresenting the argument on a multitude of levels. Pretty childish.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3935 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:40 pm to
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or when you go to sell your house, are you looking to sell for a loss? or is the goal to sell it to someone willing to pay more than you did?


The goal is to sell it at the market rate. But your trying to say real estate only goes up, because people keep buying into the system, thus, it's the same as crypto. It's super disingenuous, you sound like Jean-Pierre. Real estate increases because it offers a utility that happens to be a basic tenet of sustainable life.
Posted by Tower_Tiger12
Member since Jan 2021
983 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:42 pm to
I can understand what you mean when you say a dividend. You paid for someone else’s shares when you purchased those dividend paying shares, and if you sell someone has to pay for your shares. Also your home can appreciate in value without selling, yea we get that, but how do you extract or capture that value? Someone has to pay for it. Unless you’re taking an equity loan out, then you’re paying for that value yourself. It’s elementary and childish, you should understand both sides if you’re as intelligent as you claim to be.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Chuckiee
Member since Jan 2007
2567 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:43 pm to
so you're saying you don't need someone willing to buy it for more than you originally did?
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3935 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:53 pm to
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Also your home can appreciate in value without selling, yea we get that, but how do you extract or capture that value?


I agree, but i don't think this is the fundamental argument someone else was making. It's being misrepresented. Also pointing out, i didn't make the argument, but for some reason i was called out.
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