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New construction/long term financing decision, thoughts?

Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:30 pm
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:30 pm
I’m working on financing my new house and are have these two potential options:

Option a) construction loan that rolls into 15year balloon. Rate is 4.85% and is locked in for basically 16 years. Year 1 (construction) is interest only then years 2-16 are amortized at 30y with the balloon at the end of year 16.

Option b) yearlong construction loan at 5.5% interest only then settle long term financing this time next year.

Closing costs would be within a few thousand of each other.

Thoughts?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63955 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:33 pm to
For my personal situation i would take the long term security of option b.

This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 5:33 pm
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2944 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:08 pm to
Do you honestly think you will still be in that house in 16 years or will not have paid it off by then?
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:14 pm to
I will 100% be at that house (unless I’m dead) and I will 100% not have it paid off.

This is my final house.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

I will 100% not have it paid off.
Maybe too much house and probably option B if this is true.
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:31 pm to
I’m not asking for opinions on if this is too much house or not. I’m asking for opinions on the interest rate situation.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25438 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 7:35 pm to
I would lock in 30 year if you plan on staying. There are products out there you can lock while under construction for nominal fee if you worry about rates skyrocketing.
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 7:43 pm to
that's the issue, neither of these two products allows you to lock in 30y post construction.

Suggestions on who might have a construction to perm with a 30y lock?
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 8:45 pm to
Lock the rate down for 30 years
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 8:46 pm to
next november/December?
Posted by ellunchboxo
Gtown
Member since Feb 2009
18791 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 5:07 am to
quote:

Option a) construction loan that rolls into 15year balloon. Rate is 4.85% and is locked in for basically 16 years. Year 1 (construction) is interest only then years 2-16 are amortized at 30y with the balloon at the end of year 16.


This is what we did with the option to keep the same note after 12 years with a $1500 fee and just go to 30.

Or we can refinance.

eta: First American Bank
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 5:11 am
Posted by billyholawboy
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2007
916 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:24 am to
If you crunch the numbers, you would save a nice chunk of change by going w/ option A. Or better yet, pay the same amount you would pay monthly under option B and apply that to principle. Your balance should be fairly low at that point, so even if you had to refinance again, your monthly payment would be a good bit less.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20439 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:08 am to
quote:

I will 100% be at that house (unless I’m dead) and I will 100% not have it paid off. This is my final house.


If you need a 30 year loan absolutely do not get a 15 year with a balloon. That makes no sense unless it saves you a ton right now.

I don’t know new construction loans, but I can’t imagine there’s not a new construction to 30 year rollover option available.

OP it sounds like you have only gone to one bank or financing institution. Spend an hour and call 3-4 places at least. Just tell them what you need and ask if they offer it, if not move on.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25438 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

next november/December?


360 day rate lock. Call around.
Posted by LetzGeaux
Member since Feb 2017
268 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:55 am to
I am currently in the same situation as you. I decided to go with the the construction loan then regular mortgage. I end up having to pay two closings but I am not locked into the full amount I am borrowing for construction. I am doing this so I can take the equity of my current house when sold and apply it to the final mortgage. I didn’t feel comfortable being locked into that high of a note (full construction cost). Most money people say I am foolish for just not investing the money I have in equity and financing the whole cost. I figure with how much rates have risen it would be a wash with investing it vs putting to principal. Personally I feel more comfortable with lowering my monthly note. Just my case...
Posted by LSUKTR
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
1489 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

LetzGeaux


Why not take out a HELOC to access your current equity. I’m thinking of doing that and putting it towards the down payment. Keeps me out of jumbo rates and minimizes monthly pmt by putting more down.
Posted by number1Stunna
God's Country
Member since Dec 2018
42 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:05 pm to
Call plaquemine bank. Best construction loan program out there. Talk to Janet. Used her 3 times in last 8 years.

You get approved for construction loan. Then about a month from finishing you find a regular mortgage lon( from anyone you choose) and they let you lick the rate for 30-60 days. Small fee for longer.

Balloon payments are dumb. What if rates are 10-15% in 15 years like they were in early 80’s...?
Posted by tigers1988
lafayette
Member since Aug 2008
231 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:09 pm to
My Construction rate is 5.125% 12 to 18 months.
Do a 1 time construction to perm loan. Save on 1 closing. I can do up to a 360 day lock. It has a cost to lock long term.
thefederalsavingsbank.com/davidpacetti
This post was edited on 12/15/18 at 10:10 pm
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