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re: NASDAQ minus 15% Year To Date

Posted on 1/29/22 at 4:19 am to
Posted by FLObserver
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Member since Nov 2005
15757 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 4:19 am to
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Killing me. SE is my largest holding and I made several purchases in $200-$320 range. This bag is heavy and it’s likely going to be for a long long time. I guess this was an expensive lesson but one I’m sure many have had to learn.

Was there with you bought @ 305 range put in a stop loss at 280 and it kicked in about a week later. toke the small loss .This was about 45 days ago so my wash sale has already passed. Im free to buy again but will wait and see how next week goes before getting back in. Good company but growth especially foreign growth companies will be tricky in 2022.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7904 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 4:48 am to
I've always been fascinated with this boards obsession with SE. I watchlisted it in early 2021 after i saw cgrand pumping it, I have never really heard of it outside this board and reddit and i never bought a share but ive watched it. It took a long time for me to figure out what the company even does, its not very obvious. You read what the descriptions of the company are on ticker sites and it sounds like they are trying to hit every segment of online interaction all at once. It had massive momentum moves which was the rage the last 2 years but other than that, I dont get it. It kinda reminds me of humbl to be quite honest with wanting to be in every business everywhere. But it had a 100 billion fkn market cap So I looked into it a little more.

All of the revenue growth is from 1 video game called freefire that came out in like 2016 or 2017 on their gaming platform (look at where their sales growth starts, its all this game, and the eye popping growth stats are from covid related to this one game). They then changed their name and started investing that money into fintech and e commerce, and are rapidly expanding into different regions with those segments. They are not major players it seems anywhere those segments are, and they are hemorrhaging cash at almost 500 million a quarter. Almost all of their income comes from not just their original business which is a mobile gaming platform but from one game. Why would they not focus on that which has brought them success before, why havent they been able to create another hit game, instead they are trying to compete with established e-commerce companies like alibaba and Amazon, and they are also simultaneously attacking fintech. Both those segments are losing money at an astounding rate. They do tie those segments into freefire with prepaid cards and e-commerce shopping, but still, too perilous and way too uncertain for me.

Personally, seems like a scary company to be invested in at this time, one cash flow that's a single video game which could go out of style, and growth stats propped up by covid shutdowns, and very non focused reinvestment. Maybe I'm wrong.

I'm sure 75% or more of the people who bring up that ticker here aren't aware of what the business does at all or even cares, so im not sure it matters, but I find it fascinating. This one looks like the quintessential bubble stock to me. That market cap is serious though, so alot of people believe in the thing, it's just too confusing for me.
This post was edited on 1/29/22 at 9:38 am
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10709 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 4:22 pm to
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I'm sure 75% or more of the people who bring up that ticker here aren't aware of what the business does at all or even cares, so im not sure it matters, but I find it fascinating. This one looks like the quintessential bubble stock to me. That market cap is serious though, so alot of people believe in the thing, it's just too confusing for me.


Probably so. An aside, I owned Spectra Energy which had the ticker SE back then, and did well, and then was merged into Enbridge. Between the 2 I have earned a shite ton of distributions in a Roth. Every time I see the SE ticker that is what I think of.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
49052 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:34 pm to
Time to buy buy buy
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