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re: Mortgage Rates Killed Me

Posted on 5/12/23 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 2:32 pm to
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There's much more to it than this simplistic boomer mentality.

The barrier to entry is vastly different today than ever before, especially in regions where decent jobs actually exist. Add in the fact that most new construction in these areas aren't coming online across all price points. It's either low slums, or high end finishes. Nothing in between.


This is true, but it's also not OP's situation.

He bought 26 acres and said he had plans drawn up, so it sounds like he is working with a custom home builder, not trying to buy a spec home. He has a lot more say over the features and finishes of his future home.


Gaff:
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Out of curiosity, how would you recommend someone do this when building? Obviously you have to have a ball park number in mind before you start. You budget for that amount, save a little extra for overages and surprises. The build process is 8-12 months. How do you prearrange leverage when the banks won't allow you to lock in your rate until the build is almost complete? Same for trying to ball park your final number a year out?


I say this not being a jerk, just being honest - Plan for less home to start with, add on/upgrade later. You budgeted for some overages and surprises, but being that this was your dream forever home, you probably also included several wish list items that pushed up costs. Extra guest bedroom? Home office? High end finishes? Pool? Shop?
Nothing wrong with any of those things, but maybe pick one or two priorities to keep the initial price well below your comfortable budget, then upgrade with the others over the years.

You bought 26 acres - congrats! As you said, the value of that land has already gone up quite a bit in one year so it was a good investment. I work in development and land prices have performed better than pretty much any other investment over the past few years, still haven't really taken a hit when the rest of the economy started cooling.

One idea... you're not going to like it... sell off 5 or 10 acres and use that money to fund the gap. Not sure what area you're in but land is at a premium most places and there is likely someone else looking to build their forever home too. Maybe your future neighbor?
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18821 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 3:01 pm to
Dave Ramsey says you need to save up and pay cash for your house. Sell your current house and get a cardboard box for a few years.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20582 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 3:10 pm to
You should have had to deal with a 17% rate like me. You wouldn’t be crying now
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10723 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 3:36 pm to
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We just closed on our house a month and a half ago.

Interest rate was 5.99

Knowing that literally just 1.5 years ago our same home would have been at least 100k cheaper and half the interest rate is literally something I think about everyday. I just hope interest rates drop over the next 5 years and our home doesn't lose value.


Looks like current buyers in the Austin area are getting significantly better opportunities in 2023 no matter what the rate is. Historically since 1973 fixed rate mortgages have averaged 7.75%, sub 3% fixed rates were an anomaly, 6% is still a good rate if someone has the financial wherewithal to swing it.

"City and county housing market report
The City of Austin, along with the surrounding counties, experienced a decline in home sales, sales dollar volume, and median price in March 2023. Home sales decreased by 24.6% to 774 sales in Austin, while sales dollar volume decreased by 32.6% to $534,646,203. The median price also decreased by 15.1% to $529,495. However, new listings in Austin increased by 9.9% to 1,448 listings, and active listings soared by 307.9% to 2,166 listings. Pending sales, on the other hand, declined by 18.8% to 879 pending sales. Monthly housing inventory also increased by 2.3 months year over year to 2.8 months of inventory.

In Travis County, home sales decreased by 21.1% to 1,262 sales, while sales dollar volume decreased by 29.0% to $852,870,042. The median price in Travis County also dropped by 14.2% year over year to $514,900, while new listings increased by 9.9% to 2,250 listings. Active listings ballooned by 336.9% to 3,775 listings year over year. Pending sales declined by 13.0% to 1,401 pending sales as monthly housing inventory increased by 2.6 months year over year to 3.1 months of inventory."

Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
8249 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 3:47 pm to
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No I think he means back in 2021 the house would have been valued at 100k less than his purchase price and he could have gotten a ~3% rate.



Yep. This is exactly what I mean. I have major buyer's remorse right now.

Work moved us around a good bit so we didn't really consider buying elsewhere. We finally decided to try to settling down in a place for a while and I just wish we would have made the decision two years earlier.
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