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Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:16 pm
Posted by CHiPs25
ATL
Member since Apr 2014
2895 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:16 pm
I'm a thread starting machine today. Recently logged into my JP Morgan retirement account (401k) and they had some suggestions as to how I should diversify my account. Because i'm just getting into investing i'm hoping some of the more experienced guys on this board can provide some insight. The one that I'm surprised about below is the International Stocks. They want me to increase my portfolio and correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the International market a little in flux right now?

Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16152 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:17 pm to
31 yrs left to retire and they saying 15% fixed income???? frick that. At the most you should have maybe 3% fixed income right now , at the most.
Posted by CHiPs25
ATL
Member since Apr 2014
2895 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:21 pm to
Is that because Bonds have little risk and therefore provide small growth?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

At the most you should have maybe 3% fixed income right now , at the most.


Disagree. One might do well to have some short-term bond exposure.
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16152 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:02 pm to
Someone with 30+ year time horizon before retiring shouldn't be considering FI.
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16152 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:03 pm to
Dp
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 10:04 pm
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 6:42 am to
quote:

31 yrs left to retire and they saying 15% fixed income???? frick that. At the most you should have maybe 3% fixed income right now , at the most.



agree. makes ZERO sense to have 15% in bonds, especially at current rates.

their proposal is a low risk, low return portfolio that will under-perform the market 90% of the time. at 31, I would be 100% in stocks.

while it is conventional wisdom to always have some bonds in one's portfolio, historical performance does not support that view.

"Stocks had risen more than bonds over every 30-year period from 1861, according to Jeremy Siegel, a finance professor at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School in Philadelphia, until the period ending in Sept 30" written in 2011.

old article (2011), but relevant historical data

since the market has rallied since 2011, I'd think that recent 30 yr period is now back to stocks outperforming.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 6:57 am
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:12 am to
I would have a small allocation to fixed income for volatility suppression.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10258 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:39 am to
Just go with a target fund.

I've gone with one that is approx. 10 years after I'd like to retire to be a little more aggressive. Vanguard 2060, specifically, and will retire in 2050 or sooner.
Posted by CHiPs25
ATL
Member since Apr 2014
2895 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:48 am to
For the past few years I have been in the Vanguard 2045 which is when I plan to retire. After reading some information last year I moved my Vanguard 2045 to a Vanguard 2055 and the I diversified into Large Cap and Small caps as well. So in my portfolio, I have 88% in the 2045, 4% in 2055 and Large/Small cap.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:44 am to
Isn't it likely that a target fund would have similar allocations and still charge you more in operating expenses?
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10258 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:34 am to
Expense Ratio is .18% very minimal. It's even lower once you get into admiral shares
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