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Ireland - teh bailed out
Posted on 11/28/10 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 11/28/10 at 7:45 pm
Only $112B, no big deal.
Politicians continue their stellar record of being completely full of shite in blatantly obvious situations. Keep it up guys!
Politicians continue their stellar record of being completely full of shite in blatantly obvious situations. Keep it up guys!
Posted on 11/28/10 at 7:56 pm to kfizzle85
Ireland is small potatoes (pun intended). Spain will be big if this stuff continues.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:03 pm to NC_Tigah
Interesting video of Nigel Farage addressing the European Parliament. He agrees with you and expects that Spain will cost 7x what Ireland did and at that point the Euro is finished. It is worth watching for a couple of points he makes even if he ultimately turns out to be wrong.
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LINK
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:23 pm to NC_Tigah
I would say I've been saying that for months, but that would be stating the obvious...
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:39 pm to kfizzle85
Should have kept De Valera's policies...
Posted on 11/29/10 at 10:27 am to kfizzle85
This is fun. My dark horses are Belgium and Austria (to blow up big time).
Posted on 11/29/10 at 10:33 am to Tiger JJ
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This is fun.
Twisted bro. Twisted.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 10:37 am to TheHiddenFlask
Well, I've been trying to unwind my CDS positions for the past few weeks. My eyes pop when I see the entry points. Portugal was at 60bps in July last year. Today - 470bps!
Posted on 11/29/10 at 11:00 am to Tiger JJ
Some interesting questions:
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The question is whether the Eurocrats can beat back the speculators. I find the whole situation much too complex. I can only come up with a list of things that I wish I knew.
1. What is the true state of the large European banks? In particular, if, they had to write down the principal on the debt of the PIGS by, say, 15 percent, which banks would still be solvent?
2. What does the option for inflating away European debt look like? How would the cost of that inflation be distributed? Can the inflation take place within the context of the euro, or does it require that some countries leave the euro?
3. Does a crisis create an opportunity for governments to make radical changes to the welfare state, or is that still not possible?
4. Suppose that governments have to choose between preserving their banks and preserving high levels of spending on public employees and retirees. Which choice is better for the economy? For political survival?
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Posted on 11/29/10 at 11:54 am to Tiger JJ
Its absolutely hilarious that they're suggesting bond holders take some pain (rightfully so obviously) yet some asshat will go out there and proclaim no haircut needed on sovereign holdings in stress tests.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:22 pm to kfizzle85
Take a look at some sovereign holders - Munich Re for instance. That have a massive sovereign debt portfolio. I think just their PIIGS exposure is larger than the entire equity of the company.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:29 pm to Tiger JJ
Is the second I for Iceland?
Posted on 11/29/10 at 7:19 pm to kfizzle85
Europe scares the shite out of me.
They burn cars, strike and protest every attempt to turn back their unsustainable model.
Do these people not get it?
Are they even in the same hemisphere with reality?
They burn cars, strike and protest every attempt to turn back their unsustainable model.
Do these people not get it?
Are they even in the same hemisphere with reality?
Posted on 11/29/10 at 7:33 pm to Scoop
You think it can't happen here?
Posted on 11/29/10 at 7:44 pm to Tiger JJ
Yes. It can.
Nature has a plan. The plan is when someone is a baby their parents take care of them and when the parents get old the kids take care of them to return the favor since they can't provide for themselves any longer.
We took that as a species and turned it into stopping work at 56 and having those working fund your trips to Yellowstone in your $45,000 RV.
Nature has a plan. The plan is when someone is a baby their parents take care of them and when the parents get old the kids take care of them to return the favor since they can't provide for themselves any longer.
We took that as a species and turned it into stopping work at 56 and having those working fund your trips to Yellowstone in your $45,000 RV.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 7:46 pm to Scoop
The system goes awry when people don't work or produce and are supported by those that do. You can't get around it.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 11:49 am to NC_Tigah
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Ireland is small potatoes (pun intended). Spain will be big if this stuff continues.
frick spain, Italy! Or the UK! Or japan.
The meantime between failures and bailouts of the eurozone is going to decrease until it all comes tumbling down.
Auerbach did a great piece today about germany and their banks.
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