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If you were going to buy VIX calls as a hedge for a possible crash..

Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:30 pm
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek, Ca
Member since Jul 2020
5781 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:30 pm
What would your target expiration be?
This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Hussss
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2016
7946 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 1:05 pm to
Why not: Just buy VIX ETNs when the VIX curve gets into backwardation?

But to answer your original question, when playing options just go out far enough to avoid time decay. If I played it that way, I would go out to 2023.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6796 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 2:34 pm to
Sqqq

Avoid vxx like a plague.

Or just buy puts of companies that are tech and way high PE
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
12000 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 2:38 pm to
What is the goal of the trade?
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek, Ca
Member since Jul 2020
5781 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

What is the goal of the trade?


Well, I'm no expert, but it looks like historically during a market crash VIX skyrockets. That being said I guess it wouldn't qualify as a hedge since I wouldn't be selling my regular portfolio during a crash. It could provide me with extra capital to buy during a crash though.
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek, Ca
Member since Jul 2020
5781 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Why not: Just buy VIX ETNs when the VIX curve gets into backwardation?


Because I don't know what that means.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
12000 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 3:42 pm to
VIX might not sky-rocket unless people stop hedging, there's capitulation and a mad dash for insurance via SPX ATM puts. I think most players that can affect markets to that degree are hedged as evidenced by the volatility of volatility. My opinion is mostly B.S. as a disclaimer. Just saying don't mess with VIX just because you think stocks are going down that's not really how it works. If we grind down without capitulation you will lose 100% on your premium.
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21089 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 3:44 pm to
I think as a regular little guy retail sometimes trader that this fall is going to be weird in terms of derivative instruments moving WILDLY with people trying to make all sorts of moves

both institutional, retail, and people scared to death

Hence my advice is to be REAL CAREFUL with these things if you do not know what you're doing

or bet a VERY small amount - or paper trade first - to get a feel for how these things can move
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek, Ca
Member since Jul 2020
5781 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 3:48 pm to
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If we grind down without capitulation you will lose 100% on your premium.


Yeah, that's a good point.
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