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How Many of You Play the VIX?

Posted on 7/9/26 at 4:23 am
Posted by Hussss
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2016
7861 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 4:23 am
Was wondering how many of you are interested in the Volatility Index.

With interest rates basically consolidating for 3 years after a big run up off of the Covid lows in interest rates, the bond charts look about ready to make another run up.

Volatility looks extremely interesting right here IMHO.

I heard an interview with Stan Druckenmiller saying that he made 70% of his money in Bear Markets.

Not saying we are heading for a Bear Market yet, but playing the VIX is some of the fastest money to be made when things get squirrelly.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91859 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:10 am to
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but playing the VIX is some of the fastest money to be made when things get squirrelly.


and a quick way to get your shite pushed in. i was in SVOL for too long and got hammered. lesson learned. made those losses up strictly dumping a ton in QQQ and VOO thankfully.
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
723 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:59 pm to
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With interest rates basically consolidating for 3 years after a big run up off of the Covid lows in interest rates, the bond charts look about ready to make another run up.

Volatility looks extremely interesting right here IMHO.

I heard an interview with Stan Druckenmiller saying that he made 70% of his money in Bear Markets.

This reads like three tangentially related thoughts rather than an actual topic.

Anyway, you can't trade VIX directly. You're either using options, futures, or some ETF or ETN holdng options or futures. Long VIX, you're losing money to theta while waiting for your catalyst (unless you're the option writer, of course), or your futures are dropping as they approach expiry as the cost of carry declines (and then you have to purchase another, more expensive contract to maintain the position). Combine that with management fees for ETF/Ns, and you'll understand why VXX is down something like 99% in 8 1/2 years.

Shorting VIX futures and selling options will make money due to the mechanics stated above, but they come with severe downside risk. Just type SVXY into Google and select Max on the chart to see for yourself. XIV, an alternative, shut down due to 90+% losses in a single day after rebalancing in afterhours.

If you're not using VIX has a hedge or have a quantified edge, the odds are you're going to bleed money on the position eventually.
Posted by bobaftt1212
Hills of TN
Member since Mar 2013
1410 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 4:22 pm to
I made 160k during the covid frenzy on options. Thought I was a genius. Then QE and interest rates killed risk and I lost 60k. I decided I was no longer a genius and that SPY is more better for someone as stupid as me.
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