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Help with Tax Calculation
Posted on 1/31/20 at 8:26 am
Posted on 1/31/20 at 8:26 am
I got my current mortgage on 1/31/2018 with PMI. I know that the IRS publication has 3 requirements:
1. Mortgages you took out on or before October 13, 1987 (called grandfathered debt).
2. Mortgages you (or your spouse if married filing a joint return) took out after October 13, 1987, and prior to December 16, 2017 (see binding contract exception below), to buy, build, or substantially improve your home (called home acquisition debt), but only if throughout 2019 these mortgages plus any grandfathered debt totaled $1 million or less ($500,000 or less if married filing separately). Exception. A taxpayer who enters into a written binding contract before December 15, 2017, to close on the purchase of a principal residence before January 1, 2018, and who purchases such residence before April 1, 2018, is considered to have incurred the home acquisition debt prior to December 16, 2017.
3. Mortgages you (or your spouse if married filing a joint return) took out after December 15, 2017, to buy, build, or substantially improve your home (called home acquisition debt), but only if throughout 2019 these mortgages plus any grandfathered debt totaled $750,000 or less ($375,000 or less if married filing separately).
I believe I fall under #3- which only states that you took it out after Dec 15 2017 to BUY a home at less than $750k. This mortgage was for $180k. So I think it should still be included. TurboTax is only taking property taxes and mortgage interest, not PMI into account on the deductions page. Am I completely misinterpreting this language?
1. Mortgages you took out on or before October 13, 1987 (called grandfathered debt).
2. Mortgages you (or your spouse if married filing a joint return) took out after October 13, 1987, and prior to December 16, 2017 (see binding contract exception below), to buy, build, or substantially improve your home (called home acquisition debt), but only if throughout 2019 these mortgages plus any grandfathered debt totaled $1 million or less ($500,000 or less if married filing separately). Exception. A taxpayer who enters into a written binding contract before December 15, 2017, to close on the purchase of a principal residence before January 1, 2018, and who purchases such residence before April 1, 2018, is considered to have incurred the home acquisition debt prior to December 16, 2017.
3. Mortgages you (or your spouse if married filing a joint return) took out after December 15, 2017, to buy, build, or substantially improve your home (called home acquisition debt), but only if throughout 2019 these mortgages plus any grandfathered debt totaled $750,000 or less ($375,000 or less if married filing separately).
I believe I fall under #3- which only states that you took it out after Dec 15 2017 to BUY a home at less than $750k. This mortgage was for $180k. So I think it should still be included. TurboTax is only taking property taxes and mortgage interest, not PMI into account on the deductions page. Am I completely misinterpreting this language?
Posted on 1/31/20 at 8:49 am to Rollwave034
I'm not a tax expert, but I think PMI deduction was only from about 2007 or 2008 through the end of 2017.
And you don't lose the deduction if the mortgage is over $750k - it's just capped at the mortgage interest on $750k.
And you don't lose the deduction if the mortgage is over $750k - it's just capped at the mortgage interest on $750k.
Posted on 1/31/20 at 8:58 am to Ace Midnight
They recently rextended through 2020
Posted on 1/31/20 at 9:02 am to Rollwave034
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They recently rextended through 2020
Maybe the tax software needs to be updated?
Otherwise - for the OP, go back and make sure you entered everything from the mortgage correctly - all the boxes, including the PMI.
Posted on 1/31/20 at 9:59 am to Ace Midnight
Isn’t PMI ineligible if your agi goes above $109k/year. Maybe you’re over the income limits to include it?
Posted on 1/31/20 at 10:33 am to Rollwave034
PMI isn't technically the same as home mortgage interest. PMI has additional restrictions for deductibility, based on income. If you income is too high, you can't deduct PMI.
Look at Sch A. Home mortgage interest is deducted on 8A, PMI (mortgage insurance) on 8D.
Look at Sch A. Home mortgage interest is deducted on 8A, PMI (mortgage insurance) on 8D.
Posted on 1/31/20 at 11:07 am to Im4datigers
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This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 11:14 am
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