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Hedging for beginners
Posted on 10/14/25 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 10/14/25 at 5:25 pm
Is hedging necessary if you are a long term investor? If so, how is the best way to hedge individual stocks or SPY to lock-in gains?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 5:57 pm to JfromZ
Wouldn’t recommend hedging for long term investing. Figure out your aggressive allocation and a conservative allocation. If you get worried go to your conservative allocation. Meaning if you’re a 30y old and are 100% equities and you get nervous then just go 80/20. Never try to fully time the market but changing your allocation is ok. That way if you’re wrong and markets keep rallying you’re still participating. If you’re right then you reduced your risk and won’t be down as much.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 6:18 pm to JfromZ
I hedge slightly with covered calls.
If stock stays flat or goes down or even slightly up, you make money.
If stock stays flat or goes down or even slightly up, you make money.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 7:19 pm to JfromZ
I have VOO in my Roth. So I have VTI and VONE in my brokerage. Not sure if that’s the kind of hedging you are looking for though.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 7:53 pm to JfromZ
My long winded answer:
If you are a broad market ETF investor just continue to buy. Hedging is timing the market. Full stop. Almost no one succeeds in doing so.
Example: Buffet went all cash in February and never bought back in.
I bought Nebius at $30, 25, 45, 30, 20.
Do I need to sell at $130, 140? No.
Why? Because I’d be comfortable initiating a position at those prices.
Am I scared if it goes to $80? Not particularly. I simply sell covered calls and collect premiums. That’s my “hedge” for a frothy market.
quote:Absolutely not.
Is hedging necessary if you are a long term investor?
quote:There’s no need to lock in gains unless you need the money. That is, IF you had a reason to invest and still have a reason to be invested in any given equity.
If so, how is the best way to hedge individual stocks or SPY to lock-in gains?
If you are a broad market ETF investor just continue to buy. Hedging is timing the market. Full stop. Almost no one succeeds in doing so.
Example: Buffet went all cash in February and never bought back in.
I bought Nebius at $30, 25, 45, 30, 20.
Do I need to sell at $130, 140? No.
Why? Because I’d be comfortable initiating a position at those prices.
Am I scared if it goes to $80? Not particularly. I simply sell covered calls and collect premiums. That’s my “hedge” for a frothy market.
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 10/14/25 at 8:20 pm to JfromZ
Over time it’s likely not worth it and any financial advisor would agree.
But
If you really wanted to, spy puts for overall market, low delta out of the money puts during earning season on a volatile underlying, or buying sqqq or an Inverse ETF when things feel over inflated could be considered
Selling to open OTM call positions to collect premium and potentially commiting to selling your hundred shares at a price that you like is a solid play, but not my game
I’d suggest committing no more than 1% of your total bag on a hedge. I.e you have 100k , maybe commit a $1k max on a hedge but really, this is still a risky proposition
But
If you really wanted to, spy puts for overall market, low delta out of the money puts during earning season on a volatile underlying, or buying sqqq or an Inverse ETF when things feel over inflated could be considered
Selling to open OTM call positions to collect premium and potentially commiting to selling your hundred shares at a price that you like is a solid play, but not my game
I’d suggest committing no more than 1% of your total bag on a hedge. I.e you have 100k , maybe commit a $1k max on a hedge but really, this is still a risky proposition
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 10/14/25 at 8:37 pm to bayoubengals88
Now if he is is really committed and watches this shite all day and starts seeing clusters of Put Sweeps hitting the tape Above the Ask… yeah.. hedge then
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