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re: For the posters "of a certain age", how have you found a balance in your life?

Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:36 pm to
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:36 pm to
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Yeah. A ton of research is necessary. We're considering Turks & Caicos and the USVI and BVI. They're more expensive but stable in all respects.




I've been looking at Roatan in the west and St. Maarten in the east. Roatan has some real nice cheaply priced homes and condos. steals compared to eastern carribean.

Already have a timeshare in disney world.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
72545 posts
Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:38 pm to
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proforma on latest purchase is 30% ROI


mine are between 20 and 30 as well.

quote:

I need to scale up to multi-family


i have been looking at that as well.
Posted by Dodd
Member since Oct 2003
21048 posts
Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:39 pm to
Really good thread.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 5/4/15 at 9:44 pm to
Looked at Grenada?

I went there on my honeymoon and they were selling investor visas.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35493 posts
Posted on 5/4/15 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

I've been looking at Roatan in the west and St. Maarten in the east. Roatan has some real nice cheaply priced homes and condos. steals compared to eastern Caribbean.


Funny you should mention Roatan. We're going there in three weeks for the third time in six years. I agree. It's a great island and real estate is a steal compared to other Caribbean islands. It just isn't the easiest to get to for us if we buy a place. Still, we love that island and West Bay Beach in particular.

We were on St Maarten in March and it just doesn't do it for me. A very dirty island and the traffic is hideous. However, it has very good restaurants. St Barths was a lot of fun and we loved Anguilla. We will return and stay on Anguilla for sure.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 10:27 pm
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37695 posts
Posted on 5/4/15 at 10:25 pm to
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Fat Bastard


I love the RE guys in here. I just wish we had more.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39561 posts
Posted on 5/4/15 at 10:48 pm to
You guys almost had a real estate thread going.

Yall should really start a dedicated thread. I'd read it.
Posted by MrSweets
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
57 posts
Posted on 5/4/15 at 10:58 pm to
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i have been looking at that as well.


I think you get more bang for the buck with multifamily. My last duplex I bought was around 2000 sqft. Both units were 2BR/1Bth. On these two units alone, I get slightly under 2k in rent. 3BR houses around my neighborhood are renting around $1700/month. Another benefit of 2BR vs 3BR is that 2BR units are easier to rent since there are more people in demand for 2BR places. Finally, there is less chance of losing rent due to vacancy since it's rare that both units will be unoccupied at the same time.

Bad things is that you repair expenses might be more i.e, two AC units, 2 ovens, 2 fridges etc. But you do get 2 for the price of one on other items like roof, yard maintenance, etc.

Another thing to look out for when buying multifamily is an existing storage shed/garage. The duplex I mentioned above had a storage shed that I spend 20k converting it to a studio. That studio is making me $650 a month so you can see how fast it'll pay for itself.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 7:09 am to
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Funny you should mention Roatan. We're going there in three weeks for the third time in six years. I agree. It's a great island and real estate is a steal compared to other Caribbean islands. It just isn't the easiest to get to for us if we buy a place. Still, we love that island and West Bay Beach in particular.



we are going hopefully late summer. At least that's the plan. NO, you are right, technically any of those Caribbean places you can only get to by air or sea. be nice to have a beachfront property I could drive to say in Florida panhandle but some of the prices and insurance are riciculous. cheaper in Roatan from what i've seen so far. I guess you have to measure the pros and cons.
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 9:10 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 7:16 am to
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MrSweets


definitely wouldn't mind getting my multi-family feet wet with a duplex or 4 plex, however i was looking at apartment complexes,and looking at going to a seminar in Dallas soon by a expert in raising capital to make these purchases.

I have looked into a certain company offering an apartment investment, but basically all it is , is you loan them money, secured by the RE(much like private lending) and you get a fixed rate back for whatever the term is. Returns were nowhere near what i am getting on my SFH so i walked away. I'd prefer owning the whole complex outright.
Posted by Coastdog28
Tampa
Member since Apr 2009
5 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:57 am to
That has to be a record or something? My account was deactivated for lack of use, go figure. After that I never felt like reactivating it to post.
Posted by Coastdog28
Tampa
Member since Apr 2009
5 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:01 am to
Im in commercial RE doing development. On the side though I've tried to pick up as many rentals as I could. Had a multifamily property in New Orleans and sold it a few months ago. I have a couple other rentals that I split with a partner. Unfortunately, trying to find deals that work number wise are few and far between.

We're not in the lower income areas where the 2% deals are found though. We're generally in the $90-$125k range and rents are 1.4-1.6%. Not bad, but not a home run by any stretch.

I've been looking for the past couple of years for a midsize multifamily property. It seems to be slim pickings though. Product is nonexistent and it feels like the market is topping out. Does anybody have any experience in multifamily?
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 9:18 am
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35493 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:55 am to
quote:

we are going hopefully late summer. At least that's the plan. NO, you are right, technically any of those Caribbean places you can only get to by air or sea. be nice to have a beachfront property I could drive to say in Florida panhandle but some of the prices and insurance are riciculous. cheaper in Roatan from what i've seen so far. I guess you have to measure the pros and cons.


My easiest flights from Dulles are through Miami which gets me anywhere in the Caribbean BUT Roatan easily. There are direct flights to San Salvador but I have to overnight there and fly to Roatan the next morning. In contrast depending on the day of the week I have direct flights from Dulles to a lot of the other islands.

Still. I love me some Roatan.
Posted by Zilla
Member since Jul 2005
10599 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:14 pm to
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What is your investment criteria for your single family investments?

I've been hitting the 2% rule like a drum and even have one 3%. My market is gold for landlords.


I own a SFH rental, can you please provide some details on this calculation ? I'd like to be able to better evaluate my return...
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28104 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:25 am to
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I've been hitting the 2% rule like a drum and even have one 3%. My market is gold for landlords.



Where are you finding these? I've tried a couple of areas (Houston, New Orleans) and haven't been able to find anything approaching that, using back of the envelope math.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that I'll be looking at investing in RE within the next couple of years, and it seems like doing a duplex or multifamily setup would make sense for me, given that it would allow me to continue to work full-time and also get somewhat favorable terms on a FHA mortgage, which would be more advantageous due to a limited credit history. I don't have the time or skills to flip a house admittedly, but I will have a decent amount of dry powder built up (and very few things weighing me down) within a few years to pursue something like this.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 2:35 am
Posted by Coastdog28
Tampa
Member since Apr 2009
5 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:48 am to
Monthly rent should be 2% of the purchase price of the home.

$2,000 monthly rent for a $100,000 home. It's tough to pull off in decent areas and typically you need to be in the lower end price range on houses to meet these marks. It's just a general rule of thumb.

I stay in the 1.5% range and look for bad homes in great areas. Banking on great tenants and eventual appreciation with a little cash flow.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
72545 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:29 pm to
You don't need the 2% rule to make killer CAshflow.
Posted by Coastdog28
Tampa
Member since Apr 2009
5 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 2:18 pm to
I agree, but it certainly helps if you end up giving your portfolio over to a property manager at some point. Giving away 10% of rents kills the cashflow.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:30 pm to
I think you have to plan for that 10% cost from the get go that way you can try to ensure that you will be positive should you choose to use a manager in the future.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72545 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 4:36 pm to
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Giving away 10% of rents kills the cashflow.




I don't pay that high management fees for certain properties i own. If you buy right in the begining factoring it in, it did not hurt my cashflow one iota. Now would it be better without? sure? But having good managers is priceless in the long run if you are not close enough to do it yourself.
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