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re: First Republic Bank about to go under; government takeover imminent

Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:14 pm to
Weren’t you in SCHW with me? What made you double down on FRC instead of buying more Schwab? (that was you, right?)
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:36 pm to
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Weren’t you in SCHW with me? What made you double down on FRC instead of buying more Schwab? (that was you, right?)


Yep still in schw -460 shs - still have more SCHW (double down on FRC was $6k Vs $23k for schw position)

I am actually kind of concerned on FRC double down (bc I am just dumbly gambling). I should have run scared but said f it and doubled down. All the they are trapped noise doesn't feel accurate. They just had their earnings call there should have been going concern no? The uninsured $30b from big banks. Why would they do it if there was real risk. At worst FRC needs to right size balance sheet no? I don't politically how can they let this bust out. I got this way with RKT 2 years ago. Was down and just got keep buying. Had a huge pop to $40 cashed in my chips.

Seems like it is going $0 or worth more than $6


Are you doing options on your schw seems like I could cover calls make some money I don't know

This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:20 pm to
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Are you doing options on your schw seems like I could cover calls make some money I don't know


Implied vol has dropped off a good bit on SCHW, but it’s still around 44%. So you can make some decent money selling covered calls. I’m not selling calls, but I am still selling cash covered puts in an IRA account. I’m willing to take on more shares and have this one as a long term hold. Div at 2% isn’t great, but it’s not horrible either.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 10:52 pm to
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selling cash covered puts


If it is exercised do you just have to have cash available or they let you free it up?
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 11:22 pm to
If you’re doing it in an IRA or other tax advantaged account (I trade covered calls, cash secured puts and various spread strategies in my brokerage held HSA too), it has to be available when you place the short option trade. A cash account, I’m not sure about. In a regular margin account, you could make the trade as long as you have enough “buying power” (or whatever your brokerage calls it).
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:41 am to
$4.75 a share do I take this L or hold Gina Davis hand and fly over the cliff
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15848 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:07 am to
I would get out if i had the chance but thats just my opinion. I bought on friday afternoon when Signature bank failed so Monday came and by then the FDIC had taken over on the weekend. Monday came and i was a lifetime holder of Sig Bank shares Could see the same thing with this one over the weekend but again it's your money. Your choice.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 10:09 am
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3196 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:08 am to
Let's get a businessman that doesn't go bankrupt so often.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:18 am to
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Monday came and i was a lifetime holder of Sig Bank shares


Lol can I get the shares printed and wear them as shame ribbons

Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:48 am to
I am out


I am on tilt - I sold my whole account. All cash
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:05 am to
You mean you dumped your SCHW too?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:06 am to
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You mean you dumped your SCHW too?


Yep - I don't think it was smart just done for a beat

Sinking in August Treasuries which means default is guaranteed
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:29 am to
I’m sure that FRC play hit you hard. And easier said than done, but don’t let it get you down. Your emotions got to you (not wanting to accept that initial loss and chasing it for break even or profit). So don’t let that one bad trade put a cloud over you. Chin up, my man.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:31 am to
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I’m sure that FRC play hit you hard. And easier said than done, but don’t let it get you down. Your emotions got to you (not wanting to accept that initial loss and chasing it for break even or profit). So don’t let that one bad trade put a cloud over you. Chin up, my man.


Thanks

It's my retirement and gambling a little too much. I need a better strategy and hey 5% right now is 5%

I know I could miss upside but I really don't think I will
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15848 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 12:12 pm to
Yeah no shame in rolling the dice every now and then . i bought Sig bank on a friday afternoon . i owned it all of a day . FDIC swooped in over the weekend and i didnt even have the chance to sell. That's my kind of luck.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 12:28 pm to
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FLObserver


I think you are right just too much smoke and risk heading into the weekend

Also seems like some of the data released today fed can back off rates so that will only make FRC problems worse.


If Biden team is involved they will actively look to wipe out shareholders in my humble opinion
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15848 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 12:38 pm to
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If Biden team is involved they will actively look to wipe out shareholders in my humble opinion


Totally agree. If they make it past the day i dont see them getting past this weekend. If i was a shareholder would not take that chance after what happen to the other banks a few months ago.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
4490 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 12:47 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 7:21 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:13 pm to
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I don’t understand how it survived this long? Given the average customer balance is 10x the FDIC limit…any choice but withdrawal is totally reckless.


Yeah seems like it should be more straight forward. That said seems like it wouldn't be to hard to spoke this into solvency issues.


My mother in law has an account because that is who her investment guys are with and I think her her trades settle there or is her cash account. Her cash is under $250k I believe but the investment advisor angle might be keeping investment sticky

That is why I thought the could survive, but I am out.

Current Admin will protect these millionaires at the cost of shareholders because it plays they are protecting the everyman
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 1:15 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 3:42 pm to
$1.94 afterhours


If this implodes I feel like it should hit the market harder than it looks like it will
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 3:46 pm
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