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Can someone explain how to use P/E ratio and EPS ?

Posted on 12/12/19 at 6:57 pm
Posted by C3W
East Narnia
Member since May 2009
1513 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 6:57 pm
I try to use them when evaluating stocks, but I have no idea if I’m doing it right. I mainly look to see that EPS is generally trending upward. If EPS is low, I check to see if it’s because of the acquisition of another company.
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3228 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 7:01 pm to
P/E and EPS are ratios so I'm not entirely sure what question you're asking. I would start with these resources:

Resources:
Investopedia
Used Corporate Finance books on Amazon
Youtube

You can pick up the DeMarzo Corp Fin textbook used on Amazon super cheap

Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1799 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:14 pm to
Not to throw a wrench in your learning but look at P/S. Price to sales can’t be manipulated by accounting gimmicks and stock buybacks.

EPS can mislead you if a company buys back 5% of their float but the reinvest $0 in capex/future growth the quarter looks great (random numbers of course). However, all they’ve done is reduce the number of shares, increasing EPS, and therefore decreasing P/E, but really doing nothing but multiple expansion.

It’s much harder to fudge sales figures.
Posted by KwoodTiger
Member since Aug 2011
1067 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 4:15 am to
Taking a big step back.

P/E is not just misleading but not always a relevant valuation metric.

For example, banks are more about price to tangible book value.

Other hard asset cyclicals are more about EV/EVITDA.

And yet over highly cyclicals are about price to net asset value (ie liquidation value).

Just be careful.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 4:32 pm to
like others said P/E isn't a great metric. Growth companies specifically the tech industry are often gonna have negative earnings.

You need to look at the 10k and use a few others to get a bigger picture.

EPS isn't always great either. A buyback can inflate those numbers in the short term.
Posted by book32
Member since Dec 2019
7 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 8:32 am to
As far as I know - the higher P/E ratio - the bigger expected revenue but at the same time very risky stock shares - they can easily drop (of fly high).
Posted by mrgreenpants
paisaland
Member since Mar 2018
1421 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 8:40 am to
i prefer it not be negative...

primarily since it scares other investors
Posted by Tpayne99
Da Bayou
Member since Jan 2019
1028 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 10:46 am to
Wouldn’t P/S leave out profit margin?
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1799 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:20 am to
Funny this should get bumped. Just saw this...

Yay for multiple expansion!
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