re: Big 4 recruiting

Yea, I just got an email from PwC also, they apparently don't have any positions available where I want. Also, I got interviews with KPMG and Deloitte. If you don't mind me asking; why the disinterest in KPMG?

Sounds like a pretty good grab with those 3 already.

Honey Badger, be it.

Just dominate like Tyrann. Hard work pays off.

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I just see them as the bottom of the four (which isn't terrible). I feel that it is

1) EY, Deloitte, PwC
4) KPMG

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Just so you know, it is more like:

1) Deloitte and PwC
2) KPMG and EY

PwC is the most respected auditor in the industry; Deloitte never divested its consulting arm so it is at the top in that area. KPMG and EY are quickly growing their Advisory practices now. PwC is in-between the other 3 for its Advisory practice.

Much of your impressions are going to be on an office by office basis. The culture within offices varies tremendously among cities.

Nonetheless, if you make your decision off the perception of who is ranked ahead of another and you cannot find a better reason to convince yourself of a decision...then you probably shouldn't have gotten offers in the first place.

Revenues are considered the real measuring stick:
Deloitte and PwC: ~$26.5bn
EY and KPMG: ~$21bn

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My methodology is not based on Revenues solely. I am going off of the environments that I have been exposed to. I am sure that you could ask 10 different people what their top 4 is and you would get 10 different answers.

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That's a great way of measuring firms when you are trying to decide where to join. I agree with that approach.

However, the generalizations I posted above are how the market views the B4 as a whole, not on an individual city basis.

What advisory practice are you considering at EY?

Really all of the verticals in Advisory are attractive to me. Risk is the most specific one that I feel that I can relate to. I am also interested in Valuation.

Are you in the business?

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Really all of the verticals in Advisory are attractive to me. Risk is the most specific one that I feel that I can relate to. I am also interested in Valuation.

Are you in the business?

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Yes.

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Really all of the verticals in Advisory are attractive to me. Risk is the most specific one that I feel that I can relate to. I am also interested in Valuation.

Are you in the business?

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Are you interviewing for FSO with EY?



I'm in FSO Advisory here in NYC.

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According to one of my good family friends, deloitte blows KPMG out of the water in advisory. He has worked for AA, EY, KPMG, and now Deloitte. He just said they have so many more resources than KPMG. FWIW.

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It really isn't a fair comparison at this stage in the game. KPMG is just beginning to re-develop its consulting/advisory practice, while Deloitte never divested and is considered one of the Top 5 consultancies in the world.

KPMG has a fairly well developed Risk and Compliance and IT practice though. The strategy side is where Deloitte is a clear winner right now. EY and KPMG are growing substantially, however. Five years from now their Advisory practices will be greatly improved. It is very difficult to acquire resources in the correct areas to begin a practice; however, once the growth opportunities are available, the practice will be able to sell a different opportunity for career growth than the established consultancies.

In short, it is apples and oranges right now. Although, the B4 compete against each other for almost every project that is sent to bid. Literally 95% have all 4.