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re: 401k advice when swapping jobs ???

Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:53 am to
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2591 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:53 am to
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But even if you can, why would you?


Rule of 55 is the only reason I can think of.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1579 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 11:11 am to
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I was unaware of that. But even if you can, why would you? It’s such an advantage to have the freedom to invest your portfolio.



This is very common for people who do back door roth. Otherwise they killed by the pro rata rule.
Posted by Tig3rman
Member since Aug 2018
295 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:42 pm to
I like the flexibility of rolling over into the new plan. Assuming you have access to decent funds in said new plan. Rule of 55, later RMDs, plan loans in a crunch.
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2591 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:15 pm to
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pro rata rule


I thought I understood this, but apparently not.
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 1:31 pm
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:26 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 1:31 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91342 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 7:25 am to
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was unaware of that. But even if you can, why would you? It’s such an advantage to have the freedom to invest your portfolio.


My plan offers index funds with fees below .01% and has a brokerage option so I can buy basically whatever I want.

I already pointed out the backdoor Roth issue, and others have added loans and age 55 withdrawals.

Lastly I’ll say this - most people are terribly emotional investors. Rolling it into an IRA for “flexibility” costs those people dearly.
Posted by Tig3rman
Member since Aug 2018
295 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 8:22 am to
The average investor is not going to beat American Funds or target date funds. They are too emotional like you said. Riding a tech wave with +70% exposure that could reverse fast (regardless of solid sector fundamentals) because same investor psychology drives market prices.
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