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re: Zero blame to JJ for clock management.

Posted on 10/5/10 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 3:09 pm to
Bro, if he can't complete a 2 yard pass, then he should never be in the game.
Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 3:11 pm to
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While I put most of the blame on Miles, the offense is not under control when JJ is in the game.


You will never get Just Me to concede that JJ is a horrible QB, so you may as well move on.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 3:11 pm to
Hell no but to run any QB in that situation is probably the worst decision I have ever seen.....even worse that what Miles normally does...borders on the line of lunacy
Posted by just me
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 3:22 pm to
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You will never get Just Me to concede that JJ is a horrible QB, so you may as well move on.
JJ is not a horrible QB. He is having a horrible year.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 3:24 pm to
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"Hey guys, I know that my coach is a blitthering buffoon, so I went ahead and snapped the ball with 2 seconds while he had his thumb up his arse. Fortunately, by this time Ridley was in position so I handed him the ball and he ran up the gut into the endzone for the win. Thus, we all got laid that night."
Posted by just me
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 3:28 pm to
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Perhaps not for you, but I'd rather JJ clock it than have him throw a quick pass into the end zone when we have another chance to pick up two yards on fourth down. (chance of a completion in the end zone long shot, an interception or pass for less than two yards in bounds high. He wasn't put in for his passing skills.
Jefferson was having a horrible throwing game; however, Jefferson finished second in the nation in red-zone passing efficiency last year.
Posted by cene
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 3:31 pm to
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JJ is not a horrible QB. He is having a horrible year.


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Jefferson was having a horrible throwing game; however, Jefferson finished second in the nation in red-zone passing efficiency last year.



so what does last year have to do with this year?

his red-zone passing efficiency last year is irrelevant to his play this year.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 3:42 pm to
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so what does last year have to do with this year?

his red-zone passing efficiency last year is irrelevant to his play this year.
No. It's not irrelevant. Jefferson has had some horrible games this year. It doesn't make him a horrible QB. It doesn't mean his red-zone performance will be horrible. It doesn't mean he cannot throw a game winning pass from inside the 5-yard line.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 3:52 pm to
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Miles was really stressing about the clock management for like three or four weeks afterwards
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We were working on it all the time. Then this season, we’ve gotten away from it, and the exact same thing comes right back to bite us.


WTF to ALL of these in bold? You should work on it a few times a week at the end of practice and NEVER STOP!

That is simply HORRIBLE coaching! Who doesn't work on this?
This post was edited on 10/5/10 at 3:54 pm
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 3:54 pm to
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Poor JJ, saw him today; looks like he lost 92,600 of his best friends.


92,600 of his best friends? Uh...I don't think so. Unless best friends typically $hit all over you at any given moment.
Posted by tygerfn429
Prairieville, LA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 3:58 pm to
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Well, if you ran it once every practice it would take what....2 minutes?


20 minutes with TV timeouts :)
Posted by cene
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 4:11 pm to
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No. It's not irrelevant. Jefferson has had some horrible games this year. It doesn't make him a horrible QB. It doesn't mean his red-zone performance will be horrible. It doesn't mean he cannot throw a game winning pass from inside the 5-yard line.




His passing efficiency last year is irrelevant to this year. If he sucked last year and was lighting it up this year would you base your argument on why he shouldn't be in the game because of last year? No because this year is this year.

or

do you need a bunch of pictures for you to comprehend that?
Posted by pdxlsufan
Beaverton, Oregon
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 4:33 pm to
God damn you're a dense motherfricker.

Sit down, STFU and pay attention.

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I would make an argument that if our players, who have been playing football most of their lives since they were 10ish, need instruction on what to do when you are 1 yard from the endzone with approximately 20 seconds left in the game then they shouldn't be out there.


I hate to burst your bubble, but neither of our QBs call their own plays. Both are on a short leash and both look to the coaches for the next play. Peyton Manning is not on our roster.

And no QB is about to tell his coach to send back the subs the coach is in the process of sending onto the field. Yes, the coaches are world class fricking idiots for thinking they had enough time to send that many subs on the field. They are also world class idiots for not sending JJ onto the field with two plays MINIMUM (1st the run, then a quick pass) when they sent him in on 2nd & Goal. And the coaches are probably also idiots for switching QBs on 2nd & Goal (though that could have been mitigated had they sent in JJ with instructions for 2 back to back plays).

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Also are you assuming that JJ knew that they had 13 players on the field when he dove on the ball?


No, dickhead. Pay attention. It doesn't matter if JJ dove on the ball or not. All that matters is T-Bob snapped the ball before the clock expired and Tennessee had 13 men on the field. The odds were very, very remote that JJ or anyone else would gain 1 yard against 13 defenders. Even Ridley -- Believe It or Not! -- would have struggled to score against 13 defenders.

Try to focus on the real fricking problem. Our coaches completely failed us from 2nd & Goal onwards. Trying to assign blame to JJ is stupid and futile and distracts away from where all of our venom should be focused.

The coaches made three EXTREMELY questionable decisions:

1) They put in JJ on 2nd & Goal
2) They asked JJ to run on 2nd & Goal, but didn't give him another play to run (preferably a pass play) immediately after the conclusion of 2nd & Goal.
3) They sent in mass subs and wasted 80% of the time left on the clock.

And as a bonus, I also blame them for wasting all of our timeouts long before we got to 1st & Goal.

The coaches deserve a F- minus for the last 36 seconds of that game. And the more you try to shift the focus to JJ, the more you distract all the completely inexcusable decisions by the coaches, the grown men who are supposed to be leading by example with their sage, wise decision making. FAIL, FAIL, FAIL.


Posted by Lou
Modesto, CA
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 4:39 pm to
Easy for you to say. Like it or not, it's the player's responsibility to listen to the coaches. JJ couldn't spike the ball or run another play with three new players running onto the field trying to call a new formation and new play from the sideline. So if he spikes it, it's illegal formation/too many men on the field against LSU. Any of you who blame the players are absolutely clueless. This lies on Crowton for trying to get too complex - making a substitution with 20 seconds left from the one yard line - and Miles for not taking charge since he is the head coach.

Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 4:41 pm to
I agree with Ten Tex!
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 4:43 pm to
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God damn you're a dense motherfricker.


Dude keep pumping that sunshine dude its gonna be "JUST" ok for you.

Although, I would consider an upgrade on your intelligence level your going down to Leslie Miles' level my good man.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 4:44 pm to
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The odds were very, very remote that JJ or anyone else would gain 1 yard against 13 defenders.


I forgot to add on this.....if they don't have the fricking balls to try with :00 showing on the clock then get them the hell out of Tiger Stadium and don't ever let them back in no matter who they are.
Posted by pdxlsufan
Beaverton, Oregon
Member since May 2008
3226 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 4:46 pm to
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This lies on Crowton for trying to get too complex - making a substitution with 20 seconds left from the one yard line - and Miles for not taking charge since he is the head coach.


BINGO.

Crowton was trying to be cute on 3rd down when a no huddle quick pass was what the situtation called for.

Posted by pdxlsufan
Beaverton, Oregon
Member since May 2008
3226 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 4:53 pm to
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I forgot to add on this.....if they don't have the fricking balls to try with :00 showing on the clock then get them the hell out of Tiger Stadium and don't ever let them back in no matter who they are.


Oh my God. You're so right. We should kick JJ off the team for this infraction of the sacred trust. After all, we've got so many other great QBs on the team we don't need JJ. He doesn't pass the LSU316 "balls" test so he is now forever banished from Tiger Stadium.

You are a perfect example of a knee jerk ranter.

And the funny thing is, most knee jerk rantards are more than happy to go all in whenever anyone is dissing the coaches. But oh no.. when I diss the coaches for their most recent collosal mistake I MUST also rip JJ a new one or else I'm not living up to your high knee jerk standards.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 4:55 pm to
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high knee jerk standards.



WTF does this mean


ETA: don't fricking worry about it remember you'll be "JUST" ok.
This post was edited on 10/5/10 at 4:56 pm
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