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Posted on 10/5/10 at 1:43 pm to Boh
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You want to blame the coaches, which is fine, but you can give Lee a little more credit. He went 7 of 9 for 62 yards on that drive. A couple of mistakes, but all in all, it was not an awful drive. Converted a 3rd and long and a 4th and long with the game on the line.
I never blamed Lee. I though he did everything asked of him on that drive. The delay of game penalty wasn't even really his fault because our coaching staff takes forever to get a play. Several times both Lee and Jefferson had to yell at the sidelines for a play.
That being said, Lee playing well doesn't make it a quality two minute drive. We completely mismanaged both the clock and our timeouts.
I'm of the opinion that the last 30 seconds of the game may somewhat beneficial to the coaching staff because it shields them from criticism of just how poorly managed of a game that was.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 1:45 pm to cene
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Coaches screwed up and the quarterback on the field looked lost once he got up from being tackled.
1) He was sent in with no contingency plan
2) He was looking to the sidelines for a play after the tackle.
Blaming him for a play not coming in in the 10-12 seconds following the tackle is ludicrous.
quote:
They each deserve their own share of the blame.
100% on the coaches.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 1:47 pm to Antonio Moss
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I'm of the opinion that the last 30 seconds of the game may somewhat beneficial to the coaching staff because it shields them from criticism of just how poorly managed of a game that was.
I agree that overall the game was mishandled. I don't blame Jefferson near as much as I do the coaches. Actually I wouldn't even call it blame. He's sent out there, cold, with no feel for the way the Tenn D line is playing on that drive, and is asked to score on 1 play, then the coaches shite the bed trying to get another play in. I just really wanted him to take control.
Lee had his mistakes, and I noticed him falling off of some throws/not stepping into them. It was nice to see some quick throwing at a few moments of the game, though. He didn't seem to force the ball anywhere except for the endzone pass, which he admitted was just badly underthrown. The sacks/delay of game/grounding were all mistakes.
Hopefully, corrected mistakes for this next test.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 1:50 pm to cene
quote:You say he looked lost. You're entitled to your opinion of how he looked.
the quarterback on the field looked lost once he got up from being tackled
But what did he do wrong? What did you want him to do?
Posted on 10/5/10 at 1:50 pm to Antonio Moss
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2) He was looking to the sidelines for a play after the tackle.
Blaming him for a play not coming in in the 10-12 seconds following the tackle is ludicrous.
Is he not allowed to call a play by himself? He practices enough and should know the offense well enough to know what can be done with the personnel that was in the game. If not, he should know better than anyone how long it would have taken to get the personnel switched and he could have spiked the ball to regroup and get the play in to everyone.
But why the frick would Miles and co. send him out there without a 2nd play???
Posted on 10/5/10 at 1:53 pm to Rex
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Sean Payton's players don't have to go to class or do homework.
Sean Payton would never be stupid enough to:
a) send in a new QB on 2nd & Goal
b) give that new QB one play and only one play to run: a running play with no timeouts available
c) then after those two moronic decisions, Sean Payton would never send in lots of subs and thereby waste 80% of the remaining time left on the clock
Then after those three moronic decisions, Sean Payton would probably commit hari-kari on the 50 yard line.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 1:56 pm to tigerskin
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Well explain to me how you interpret what he said.
I would interpret it as their was once a focus put on it that vocally reminded the players to never forget what happened at OM.....over time that vocalization has become less vocal which it should.....I mean Ole Miss was damn near a year ago should we have to talk about it every day still???
Again I don't think we stopped practicing the 2 minute drill.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 1:57 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
1) He was sent in with no contingency plan
2) He was looking to the sidelines for a play after the tackle.
he's the damn quarterback. Does he need to be spoon fed everything? He knows the offense. he knows plays in the playbook. its the two minute drill. HE is in control of the offense unless the clock is stopped.
spiking it wasn't the right call but at least it would have been a safer call then panicking and looking to the sideline for a play as the clock ticked away.
the simple fact that he had to look to the sideline for a play makes me feel that he was lost and a deer in the headlights. therefore, he deserves some of the blame definitely not all but some.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 2:00 pm to Antonio Moss
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100% on the coaching staff.
/thread
Posted on 10/5/10 at 2:04 pm to LSU316
“We were working on it all the time. Then this season, we’ve gotten away from it, and the exact same thing comes right back to bite us."
He said working on it...not vocalizing about it. Pretty clear.
He said working on it...not vocalizing about it. Pretty clear.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 2:04 pm to Boh
List of mistakes/problems that led to the debacle with hind sight being 20/20:
1) Sending in Jefferson without 2 plays. If you run it on second down, the 3rd down play needs to be a quick pass or a clock of the ball. (fault coaches)
2) Trying to substitute players after the JJ didn't score and the clock is running. There was too much confusion and delay in making this happen. (fault coaches)
3) After the confusion above in #2, the only call should have been to clock the ball on 3rd down. At that point JJ needs to stop looking at the sidelines and take matters into his own hands and make sure we could run a 4th down play with the right package on the field. (fault Jefferson)
I caviout the above with saying that I like putting Jefferson in the game to try to run it in on second down. That was the safer call to me than having Lee try to throw it and risk a pick.
1) Sending in Jefferson without 2 plays. If you run it on second down, the 3rd down play needs to be a quick pass or a clock of the ball. (fault coaches)
2) Trying to substitute players after the JJ didn't score and the clock is running. There was too much confusion and delay in making this happen. (fault coaches)
3) After the confusion above in #2, the only call should have been to clock the ball on 3rd down. At that point JJ needs to stop looking at the sidelines and take matters into his own hands and make sure we could run a 4th down play with the right package on the field. (fault Jefferson)
I caviout the above with saying that I like putting Jefferson in the game to try to run it in on second down. That was the safer call to me than having Lee try to throw it and risk a pick.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 2:05 pm to cene
quote:
the simple fact that he had to look to the sideline for a play makes me feel that he was lost and a deer in the headlights. therefore, he deserves some of the blame definitely not all but some.
Jesus fricking Christ.
He deserves blame for looking to the sidelines for a play in the two minute offense where the coaching staff has called 80% of the plays from the sideline?
Do you realize how fricking dumb this sounds?
Posted on 10/5/10 at 2:07 pm to TX Tiger
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TX Tiger
so you post no blame on Jefferson for not snapping the ball at the end and then when the ball was snapped for just falling on it and failing to at least try to make a play with 0:00 showing on clock.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 2:07 pm to ScottieP
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While I put most of the blame on Miles, the offense is not under control when JJ is in the game.
This
Posted on 10/5/10 at 2:07 pm to Antonio Moss
There is no logical reason to blame Jefferson.
Fact is, he should have been instructed to immediately clock it after his run, or been given another play to call at the line.
Every single ounce of blame falls on the coaches.
/thread
Fact is, he should have been instructed to immediately clock it after his run, or been given another play to call at the line.
Every single ounce of blame falls on the coaches.
/thread
This post was edited on 10/5/10 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 10/5/10 at 2:09 pm to tigerskin
The QB has to have the confidence to take over the reigns and not have to look at the sidelines like an idiot
Posted on 10/5/10 at 2:09 pm to cajun12
wasn't JJ's fault they had him come to sideline and then ran 3 guys in at the last minute.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 2:16 pm to RileyTime
quote:By the time he could have run another play, either pass or clock it, the staff had already sent players onto the field.
The QB has to have the confidence to take over the reigns and not have to look at the sidelines like an idiot
There was nothing he could do.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 2:18 pm to DBG
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Every single ounce of blame falls on the coaches.
I'll blame the coaches, but I think at least 1% goes to Jefferson. Just my opinion that more could have been done in the situation. If we're changing personnel, it's likely we will only get 1 more play. Jefferson should know it better than anyone since he's the link from the coaches to the timing on the field.
It's possible that he could have spoken up, or at least tried to, in order to get everyone down and ready to clock it so they could settle down with the new personnel.
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