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re: Your starting secondary

Posted on 7/19/13 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by TxTiger82
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 3:10 pm to
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RR weighs 175 and has missed the whole summer. Unless he's all world, I doubt he comes in and starts or jumps Collins


Exactly, and he seems like a very similar player to Collins anyways. So unless Robinson can beat Collins at his own game (as a freshman, when Collins has a year of SEC play under his belt), I don't see Collins getting surpassed by Robinson.

I could see White moving up, just because he is so hyped. If he is that good he might have to play.

Also, Dwayne Thomas looked solid in the spring game. Good technique and athleticism.

Really, I think Mills, Collins, Thomas, and White make a pretty solid top 4. Throw in Holmes who didn't look half bad in the spring game, too.
Posted by LSU=Champions
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 3:12 pm to
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Exactly, and he seems like a very similar player to Collins anyways.


They do not strike me as similar players in the least. They play the same position but that's about it.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 3:14 pm to
Well they are both 6'2". Collins was about 180 coming in. Robinson will be about 175 from all reports. They seem to have a similar build. Maybe Robinson has a longer stride and wingspan, and can maybe turn and run a bit better.

We'll see I guess. These are good problems to have.
Posted by DontCare
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 3:38 pm to
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I could see White moving up, just because he is so hyped. If he is that good he might have to play.

it's been said that rashard was running with NFL receivers at patrick peterson's camp and handling them pretty well. i like white a lot, but does he really have more hype than that? they'll both be great and, hopefully, get some playing time this year. but neither will be a starter.
Posted by Sneakbo
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 3:49 pm to
If collins plays like he did the majority of last year were in trouble
This post was edited on 7/19/13 at 3:50 pm
Posted by LSU=Champions
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 3:52 pm to
I'm a fan of Collins but I can't help but think he will not be the #2 CB by year's end. He was really, really bad at times getting his hips turned and running with WR's that got a step on him. That's not to say he will lose his nickel spot, but we also have other good candidates there too.
Posted by tigerswin03
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 3:53 pm to
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I just hope Mills and Collins learn some lessons from the Clemson debacle. We threw three corners at Hopkins and nobody could even so much as slow him down.
they were on the field entirely too long last year.....the key is the offense staying on the field and letting those guys save their legs....
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33940 posts
Posted on 7/19/13 at 3:57 pm to
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I'm a fan of Collins but I can't help but think he will not be the #2 CB by year's end. He was really, really bad at times getting his hips turned and running with WR's that got a step on him. That's not to say he will lose his nickel spot, but we also have other good candidates there too.



I agree with that.
Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 4:00 pm to
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If collins plays like he did the majority of last year were in trouble



Another dumbass who barely watches the games
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 4:03 pm to
This thread is filled with em
Posted by Sneakbo
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 4:03 pm to
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Another dumbass who barely watches the games





He and reid were the weakest links in terms of coverage

Posted by sunnydaze
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 4:11 pm to
Loston was far worse than Collins
Posted by Sneakbo
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 4:15 pm to
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Loston was far worse than Collins



Don't remember seeing loston giving up 20 yrd catches
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30016 posts
Posted on 7/19/13 at 4:17 pm to
lol what? Loston gave up the only TD UW scored

Outside of ole miss, what game was Collins God awful in?
Posted by Sneakbo
Member since Jul 2013
917 posts
Posted on 7/19/13 at 4:21 pm to

1 td? Doesnt really matter since LSU pounded Washington


Collins's coverage against moncrief almost cost LSU the game
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 4:24 pm to
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Craziest part to me is that Kevin Tolliver will be the best of all of them on day 1. Kid will start as a true freshman at LSU. He is PP7 reincarnate.


How do people make this call after watching high school highlights?

I've watched HS highlights of Juco and D2 guys that looked pretty "impressive."
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 5:09 pm to
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Simon and reid were the weakest links in terms of coverage
Posted by LSU=Champions
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 5:12 pm to
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reid was the weakest link in terms of angles
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 5:20 pm to
Can't blame Reid for having some stepbacks last season. He was a good safety, but the likes of BT18,TM7 & MC17 made him look amazing in '11.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 7/19/13 at 5:31 pm to
CB- Mills
S- Martin
S- Loston
CB- Collins
NB- White

Collins WILL be starting next year. Chavis has groomed him specifically for this season. He will have a breakout season and will have a 3rd round grade after the season and could possibly go pro. He is more fluid and flexible than Simon was, and is extremely physical and rangy with great ball skills.

Everyone is excited about White, and for good reason. Kid is a stud. But, its extremely hard to come in as a fresh and start. And not just start, but take Collins spot who looked really good towards the back end of the season. Mills started because TM got the boot. White or Mills will be the NB and the other will be the CB opposite of Collins.

We have a trend of how we use CBs. We have 1 big, physical, rangy CB out there paired with a smaller ballhawking CB. Weve done this for quite a few years. Collins will be that big book end CB. Mills will be the other. When we go NB, Mills or White will be the NB. I cant remember the last season our 2 starting CBs were under 6'0.

RR is a great looking prospect with unreal potential. But, is light and hasnt reported yet. Redshirt.

Eugene was our best blitzing DB last year and we all know how much Chavis loves to send the CB. He will be the dime back and will take on the Ron Brooks role.
This post was edited on 7/19/13 at 5:38 pm
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