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re: Your Reaction after Toss Dive was the first play
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:21 am to Jeffreylebowski
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:21 am to Jeffreylebowski
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I want someone to name a time it went for a TD or big gain?
Hill basically made his career off the toss dive
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Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:21 am to Choupique19
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I don't believe that the running back "sees the hole quicker" on the toss dive.
maybe we need some ex rb's to answer this question.
we aren't really fooling anyone with our offense...unless we do a waggle or misdirection teams have a pretty good idea where the ball is going based on our tendencies. I think when we run that play it is all about us trying to dominate a team...not trick them.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:21 am to Choupique19
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Also, I don't buy the running back sees the hole quicker argument.
That isn't the argument, and I've seen you make this statement every time this play is discussed. The play is designed to generate the same benefit as an inside zone play. Because it slows the linebacker flow, the running back can pick an interior lane, much like an inside zone play. It isn't that the player can see the holes, he is allowed to pick the hole based on the defenses reaction.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:24 am to Jeffreylebowski
My reaction is that Jeffrey and his merry band prove Russell Honore' right.
No surprise.
No surprise.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:24 am to therick711
I honestly can't remember. How many yards did we get on the play?
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:30 am to atltiger6487
No play is the same as another.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:33 am to Topwater Trout
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I think when we run that play it is all about us trying to dominate a team...not trick them.
+1
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we aren't really fooling anyone with our offense...unless we do a waggle or misdirection teams have a pretty good idea where the ball is going based on our tendencies.
This true, and so sad. Les would rather run into a brick wall until it breaks instead over using the ladder to climb over it.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:33 am to Jeffreylebowski
only thing that surprised me was LF not having anywhere to go
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:34 am to Choupique19
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This true, and so sad. Les would rather run into a brick wall until it breaks instead over using the ladder to climb over it.
talk about completely missing the point.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:36 am to Choupique19
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This true, and so sad. Les would rather run into a brick wall until it breaks instead over using the ladder to climb over it.
its very frustrating. I would love to see more counters and misdirection...I don't think its a bad thing to try to trick an opponent. Also I believe early in games it helps to wear a defense down...then you can take their will late in the game by running right at them.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:37 am to Choctaw
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talk about completely missing the point.
No kidding. Les Miles called a running play to open the game and that means that he isn't going to do anything other than run toss dives for the rest of the game.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:39 am to Topwater Trout
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I would love to see more counters and misdirection
Then you should love our bend play that we run 15 times a game out of the I formation while people complain that we are running the ball.
Bend Play
Observe the offensive line blowing Kentucky two yards off the ball before Magee can reach the line.
That's why we run the ball, folks.This post was edited on 9/8/15 at 10:41 am
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:40 am to Earn Your Keep
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I don't mind the play but I wish they wouldn't run it on the first play of the game.
EVERYBODY knows it's coming so we end up with a 2nd & long.
This!!! No mystery at all what's coming.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:42 am to RedTigerRulz
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This!!! No mystery at all what's coming.
What was the first play against New Mexico State last year just out of curiosity? Guess what it looked like.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:43 am to therick711
How many yards did we gain on the opening play?
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:43 am to therick711
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Les Miles called a running play to open the game and that means that he isn't going to do anything other than run toss dives for the rest of the game.
Are you implying that the LSU offense of the last 8 years has not been known to stay in 2 back sets and ram into 8 and 9 man boxes for most of the game?
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:46 am to Choupique19
Our playcalling does generally well in between the 20's. But when the field gets shorter, it's harder to move that ball only by running it.
THAT'S our problem.
THAT'S our problem.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:46 am to therick711
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love our bend play that we run 15 times a game out of the I formation
how is that a counter?
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:46 am to Choupique19
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Are you implying that the LSU offense of the last 8 years has not been known to stay in 2 back sets and ram into 8 and 9 man boxes for most of the game?
I'm not implying anything. I am straight up telling you that LSU didn't start winning conference games last season until they started running the ball 70% of the time. Jennings couldn't throw. It isn't a good strategy to throw the ball all around when your guy can't throw. The fact that you want to run the offense that got LSU down to State and their brakes beaten off against Auburn shows that you don't appreciate the necessity of what they did last year.
In terms of the other years, your characterization is incorrect.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:46 am to Topwater Trout
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how is that a counter?
Who said it was a counter?
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