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WR's - 10,000 off-season reps on the Jugs machine MINIMUM

Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:13 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:13 pm
OSU's WR's committed to 10,000 reps on the off-season last year. Their improvement was impressive.

One of the all-time "great hands" WR's was NFL HOF Raymond Berry. He did 100 reps EVERY day during his 14 year career (in-season and off-season). That's 36,500 reps a year. Jerry Rice had a similar personal practice routine.

LSU has strong athletes at WR. No excuse for their D-minus catching "skills".
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 3:15 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:14 pm to
Nah we just need Sullivan to yell at them about footwork some more.

Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:14 pm to
If they want to be great that's the commitment it will take.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:15 pm to
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WR's - 10,000 off-season reps on the Jugs machine MINIMUM


70 year old WR coach ain't got time for that.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:20 pm to
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70 year old WR coach ain't got time for that.


The coach can go home and take a nap. WR Jugs reps are 100% on the player's own initiative. The kids they're competing against for NFL slots are sure as hell working it in the off-season.
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:35 pm to
And the Jugs machine isn't required. Berry had team mates, neighbors, and even his wife throw to him.

He had about 12 different catches identified - high and above, high and behind, low and behind, basket low, basket over-the-shoulder, etc. Did about 8 of each.

The daily routine took less than 20 minutes. He has a couple of books on it.

Here's one of his books on eBay - $3.99 and free shipping
LINK
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 3:49 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:37 pm to
Come home Adam Henry
Posted by alumni95
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

OSU's WR's committed to 10,000 reps on the off-season last year. Their improvement was impressive.


OBJ and Juice used to do that amount on each hand... on Tuesday.

I kid, but they were obsessed at perfection and it paid off.
Posted by tigerforever7
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 4:11 pm to
I was at a wedding this Saturday and wasn’t able to see the game. I saw burrow only had I believe 8 incompletions. Who dropped balls?
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 4:14 pm to
Berry would also constantly squeeze Silly Putty. He kept some with him akl the time and would alternate hands.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 11/18/18 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

I was at a wedding this Saturday and wasn’t able to see the game. I saw burrow only had I believe 8 incompletions. Who dropped balls?


Jefferson dropped 2 cream puffs, Sullivan dropped 1. There were a couple others - (JJ's endzone miss was a great effort, and not a drop at all, IMO)
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 4:22 pm to
Can we get the jugs machine to wobble em
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21443 posts
Posted on 11/18/18 at 4:24 pm to
Dropped balls are usually a mental thing, lack of concentration thru the catch, etc. Not getting open is a footwork thing, which they did well last game.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 11/18/18 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

Can we get the jugs machine to wobble em

Lotta WR's don't mind some wobble. Easier to see the ball in some conditions.

quote:

Dropped balls are usually a mental thing, lack of concentration thru the catch, etc. Not getting open is a footwork thing, which they did well last game.

That's fair to some extent. But some say the different catches are like playing different chords on a guitar or piano - they can seem impossible til you practice them a few thousand times - then they're easy as pie.
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 4:33 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 4:28 pm to
How many did they take this year?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

WR Jugs reps are 100% on the player's own initiative. The kids they're competing against for NFL slots are sure as hell working it in the off-season.


It's a nice idea. The reality is that level of commitment is rare in players. If they had that in them guess what, they wouldn't have stone hands in the first place.

If it's not in the players, that level of commitment has to be instilled by the coaching staff through culture. And it's not just about the WRs. That standard has to be expected of the QB, the OL, the RBs, everyone.

Can't just say "hey WRs, you sucked this season so you have to do JUGS reps until your hands fall off. But DBs, you're ok, go on vacation." Doesn't work like that.

The team culture has to be such that going the extra mile is the norm. And that starts with the HC, Orgeron.
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 4:35 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

How many did they take this year?

My best guess from looking at game performance would be 500 to 1000 max. Should get close to that many reps in a week

quote:

Can't just say "hey WRs, you sucked this season so you have to do JUGS reps until your hands fall off.

Agree that commitment is team wide - seems like the D already has it.

And 100 reps a day won't cause a WR's hands to fall off - if anything, it will make them much stronger.

This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 4:43 pm
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21443 posts
Posted on 11/18/18 at 5:54 pm to
True they may be easy as pie to catch physically. Been there done that. The mental part is sometimes hard to beat, but the good ones will. You remember when,I think it was Bowie?, that was attempting to catch a long sideline throw and actually went thru the motion of catching it and actually threw the ball straight up? - That was a nervous nelly attempt with stiff hands.....but he overcame it.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21443 posts
Posted on 11/18/18 at 5:57 pm to
True they may be easy as pie to catch physically. Been there done that. The mental part is sometimes hard to beat, but the good ones will. You remember when,I think it was Bowie?, that was attempting to catch a long sideline throw and actually went thru the motion of catching it and actually threw the ball straight up? - That was a nervous nelly attempt with stiff hands.....but he overcame it.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10445 posts
Posted on 11/18/18 at 6:03 pm to
It is POOR coaching.
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