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Posted by bdsco337
Member since Sep 2008
2292 posts
Posted on 3/3/09 at 11:20 pm to
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You begin with "he's" then end with "right."

Most people believe Miles won with Saban's talent and his talent alone. Sure Les coached them the majority of their careers, but it wasn't fully "his" team. The year that the majority of Saban's star players left, the wheels fell off. Not only did he lose 5 games, but he lost the team and the players. A national champion should NEVER quit on the field, and LSU did more than once last year.

He's made HIS staff. He's got HIS recruits. This is HIS mess, but he seems to have positioned LSU to be very good next year. He isn't paid to win a title then fall off the face of the Earth, so someone saying he needs to prove himself or earn his check is dead on.




Dead on.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 3/3/09 at 11:20 pm to
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You're entirely missing the point. I don't know how to make it any clearer.


Are you fricking serious? This entire thread is over your head. You couldn't even answer a question when I said, "Honest question for you to answer"

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You're not really that stupid are you?


You said the fact that he coached well for three seasons meant that last year's team wasn't poorly coached, which is one of, if not the most idiotic things to ever be said by anyone on Earth at any point in time. I can't fricking stand it when tards like you elude to me being stupid.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26665 posts
Posted on 3/3/09 at 11:23 pm to
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JPLSU1981


Don't bother, common sense doesn't seem to be his forte.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 3/3/09 at 11:26 pm to
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Actually, that's not entirely accurate. Bama had Top 15 talent going into 2007. Certainly LSU had more next-level talent, but don't let Bama fans fool you into thinking Saban took over a shitty program, because he did not.


I could have recited Bama's recruiting rankings for the past three years, so that's unnecessary, but I appreciate the effort. Recruiting rankings are a good indicator of talent, but the fact that Bama had 9 graduating seniors this past year is more telling of their "talent" from previous years than high school ratings.

Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26665 posts
Posted on 3/3/09 at 11:35 pm to
Listen dumbshit, I didn't need to waste my time answering it cuz we both knew it was obvious. In your stupid fricking opinion, if a coach has a team ranked around #15-17 and loses to ULM, its cuz of bad players not the coaches. Who's the tard again?

Was last year's team poorly coached at times? Of course. I never fricking said that. I just said that that in those first years, he's turned guys like hester (2stars mind you) and Russell, etc. and helped them develop into some real prime time players.

Not to mention our running backs have the least amount of fumbles than anyone else in the country during Miles tenure. There are many more examples to show how hilarious it is that you call ME the tard but I've got much more important things involving midterms to do. So peace out and good luck with all that great football knowledge of yours.
Posted by Xenophon
Aspen
Member since Feb 2006
42638 posts
Posted on 3/3/09 at 11:49 pm to
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I buy that argument with UGA and Bama, NOT with UF.

little things went there way.. it happens..
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And why did they outplay us? Just because they were "hot?" How did you conclude that was the answer?

sometimes this happens.. LSU has been very fortunate to win so many close games.. all team have games like the OM game where they are just outplayed..

at minimum, i would wait to see how this year goes before throwing the coaches and players under the bus for quitting..
Posted by Cornholio
LaPlace
Member since Nov 2007
8266 posts
Posted on 3/3/09 at 11:52 pm to
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I could have recited Bama's recruiting rankings for the past three years, so that's unnecessary, but I appreciate the effort.


Thats just dumb. Do us all a favor and STFU.

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Recruiting rankings are a good indicator of talent, but the fact that Bama had 9 graduating seniors this past year is more telling of their "talent" from previous years than high school ratings.


Yea, you're right, Bama has been recruiting scrubs. This is the SEC, dude. Everyone has enought talent to beat anyone else any given day. Just stop with this shite. Bama was not as "talentless" as you would have everyone believe.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 3/4/09 at 12:13 am to
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Thats just dumb. Do us all a favor and STFU.


Do me a favor by catching AIDS and dying. Thanks. I'll go after you.

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Yea, you're right, Bama has been recruiting scrubs. This is the SEC, dude. Everyone has enought talent to beat anyone else any given day.


Wow, I mean I know you're pretty fricking tardy, but the fact that I said their rankings were misleading doesn't mean I said scrubs. Are people like you so retarded that they can't just accept what I ACTUALLY said, but instead have to find a much more extreme alternative to prove a point?

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Just stop with this shite. Bama was not as "talentless" as you would have everyone believe.


I didn't know I had to educate you morons on their team. I'm sure you didn't know how thin they were as far as veterans go, though, so I guess I do. "But AlexLSU uses actual facts about their current roster to make a basis on talent as oppose to rankings of the players when they were 17." Ever hear of "stargazers", or those who just look at recruiting rankings when figuring out a team's worth? Shut the frick up and get out of this thread.
Posted by lsubeer
Denver
Member since Sep 2008
1234 posts
Posted on 3/4/09 at 12:24 am to
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The team seemed to flat out give up at times.

I don't think they quit...and they looked flat, but the biggest thing is that they were defending Natl Champs and could not match the intensity that the other teams brought against them EVERY WEEK...they had a bullseye on there back and in my opinion got the best shot from each team it played...I will argue Alabama was the only team that looked flat against us, but still won in the end!
Posted by Toothpick
Member since Jan 2004
19468 posts
Posted on 3/4/09 at 6:45 am to

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If the Tigers repeat that record next season, Miles will feel some heat.


+1


Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
12091 posts
Posted on 3/4/09 at 7:11 am to
Who cares what Tom Dienhart at Rivals or any of our coach haters say. Miles has the LSU football program exactly where we want it--on top in the SEC West and a perennial power in the SEC.

How much currency did Urban Meyer lose in 2007 with four losses including a lost to Michigan in postsesaon? According to Dienhart, none. In Meyer's case, he is correct; in Miles case, he is obviously wrong.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56203 posts
Posted on 3/4/09 at 7:16 am to
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wonder if he said the same thing about Urban Myers going 9-4 after winning the NC?


Exactly with a Heisman at QB no less..we had pick 6 going on this year... Zooks players??? Yes?

Miles will earn respect with other folks this year...It's a shame he has too, but it's the public's perception of him...

the only thing I would be concerned about is the culture of the LSU way of doing things that Saban put into the players..The mindset.. I don't really see it changing under Miles..we will be fine... you gotta have a QB to win.. JJ is the man
Posted by tigator
St. Amant, La.
Member since Nov 2007
84 posts
Posted on 3/4/09 at 7:59 am to
AlexLSU


DOUCHEBAG!!!!!! :geauxtigers: :geauxtigers: :geauxtigers:
This post was edited on 3/4/09 at 8:00 am
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79292 posts
Posted on 3/4/09 at 8:02 am to
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Do me a favor by catching AIDS and dying. Thanks. I'll go after you.


Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33268 posts
Posted on 3/4/09 at 8:02 am to
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It seems any currency Miles earned by leading LSU to the 2007 BCS title vanished with last season's 8-5 clunker that saw the Tigers go 3-5 in the SEC. Now, Miles seemingly has to prove himself all over again. And he'll do it with a revised coaching staff. Talent never is an issue in Baton Rouge. It's up to Miles to coach 'em up.
As long as he's making 4 million bones a year, and getting the shitty results he got last year, he's fully deserving of any criticism he gets. If he shows he can get them out of the funk they were in last year and win with all of this talent and coaching he has, then he fully deserves the 4 million.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33268 posts
Posted on 3/4/09 at 8:04 am to
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I don't think they quit...
Yes, they did. Mentally and physically.
Posted by Tigerik
Franklin, TN
Member since Mar 2007
1720 posts
Posted on 3/4/09 at 8:06 am to
Saban had a good year last year with a group of experienced leaders and a solid QB that finally came of age, but got his arse kicked in the Sugar Bowl.

I think LSU could have beaten UTAH but we'll never know now will we.

Urban went 12-0 at UTAH. Give LSU that schedule and see how they fare.

Les will make believers of us all these next few years, and I'll take his recruits any day over Sabans'. With a real defensive Coordinator this year, we'll see the combo of Crowten and Chavis will rock. Get out of the way Les and let them coach baby.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 3/4/09 at 8:07 am to
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We had talent that was not coached...remember we lost Pelini and replace with that 2 headed monster of DC...

Not to mention the QB situation that left the defense on the fieled WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too long too many time in games...




Who created that two headed monster?

Who recruited and coached the quarterbacks?

Who has the responsibility for the team and who is making the big bucks? It wasn't Jimbo, it isn't Crowton, and it wasn't Peveto and Mallory.
You guys blame everyone except the one who has the responsibility and authority to make changes.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79292 posts
Posted on 3/4/09 at 8:10 am to
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Who created that two headed monster?

Who recruited and coached the quarterbacks?

Who has the responsibility for the team and who is making the big bucks? It wasn't Jimbo, it isn't Crowton, and it wasn't Peveto and Mallory.
You guys blame everyone except the one who has the responsibility and authority to make changes.


Why don't you read the entire thread before responding...

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yes Miles decision to go with co-dc's was the wrong
Posted by RodMad501
Destrehan
Member since Aug 2008
701 posts
Posted on 3/4/09 at 8:30 am to
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