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Winning NY6 (non-CFP) game vs losing the game

Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:18 pm
So I ran some quick numbers of the 16 games over the last 4 seasons that were non-CFP NY6 games.

The small conference schools have won in 3 of the 4 seasons thus far (Boise, Houston and UCF)

Teams that win these games average 9.5625 wins the following season

Teams that lose these games average 8.25 wins the following season.

25 percent of winning teams go on the win less than 8 games the following season.

37.5 percent of losers of these games go on to win less than 8 games the following season.

Another fun fact is that each season, a team that has lost one of these games came back to win one of these games the following season. Ole Miss lost to TCU in 2014 but beat Oklahoma St in 2015, Florida St lost to Houston in 2015 but beat Michigan in 2016, Penn St lost to USC in 2016 but beat Washington in 2017. Washington is only team that lost these games last season that are back in them this season.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32624 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:22 pm to
If we lose to UCF without their QB that UT game in 19 becomes critical to Orgeron's future.


Sorry, his immediate future.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15779 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:24 pm to
Analytics are great and everything but just remember that the ending scene in the movie Moneyball described it best.

When it comes down to 1 game, numbers dont matter. Analytics are great for studying trends over a period of time, but at the end of the day when it all boils down to just 1 game, Talent and superior athletes prevail. (Yankees beat the A's)
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 2:29 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:27 pm to
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If we lose to UCF without their QB



Well the backup put up over 50 against Memphis... This will be NO cakewalk... I think we go in uninspired and get our arse handed to us.........
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:35 pm to
I like To think we aren’t Memphis
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:40 pm to
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think we go in uninspired and get our arse handed to us.......


Where is this line of thinking coming from? Lsu is playing in the best bowl game in 7 years and coming off a game the players felt they won but it was taken away from them. I think O gets them fired up and they come out ready to play. It will still be a tough game and they may still lose but it won’t be because they are uninspired.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
6683 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:44 pm to
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When it comes down to 1 game, numbers dont matter. Analytics are great for studying trends over a period of time, but at the end of the day when it all boils down to just 1 game, Talent and superior athletes prevail.


Totally disagree. When it comes down to 1 game, anything can happen. If LSU played UCF 100 times I’d like to think we win 99 of them. But in one game, a lucky break here, a turnover, bad call. Happens all the time.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202635 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:45 pm to
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but it won’t be because they are uninspired.



We shall see............... Its a lose lose game for The Tigers... Win and we should have.... Lose and we were uninspired because of the so called talent gap..............
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32624 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:46 pm to
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Well the backup put up over 50 against Memphis..
Yeah and STM's QB put up 50 on Uhigh. Memphis and LSU are on different stratospheres defensively.

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dukke v

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I think we go in uninspired and get our arse handed to us.........

Well, there it is. Betting the house on LSU to cover.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 2:48 pm
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28245 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:47 pm to
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When it comes down to 1 game, numbers dont matter. Analytics are great for studying trends over a period of time, but at the end of the day when it all boils down to just 1 game, Talent and superior athletes prevail. (Yankees beat the A's)


And in non-playoff Bowl games is largely comes down to motivation. Who wants to be there playing and who is ready to just end the season?

Last year Auburn was good enough to blowout UGA and beat Alabama by 12 (their largest margin of defeat in a regular season game in 7 years). I find it hard to believe that UCF was simply just leaps and bounds better than Auburn. However, while UCF was playing for an undefeated season with a chip on their shoulder, Auburn was playing in the same venue they had just played in a month earlier. More importantly, the Peach Bowl was a complete letdown after being so close to reaching the playoffs.

Point is, Auburn didn't give a shite about being in the Peach Bowl while UCF was thrilled to be there.

That's why I never put much stock in bowl games one way or the other. Many times it's a matchup between one team that cares and another that doesn't
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64475 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:48 pm to
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Its a lose lose game for The Tigers

Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202635 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:51 pm to
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Yeah and STM's QB put up 50 on Uhigh. Memphis and LSU are on different stratospheres defensively.



Well that went over your head[which is no surprise]... I was saying that they don't seem to be missing a beat with the backup QB......
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:47 pm to

What a loser, Good luck with UCF !
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93643 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 3:52 pm to
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I think we go in uninspired and get our arse handed to us.......

Is THIS considered bashing the coach? You seem so quick to accuse others of bashing Orgeron.
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