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re: Will Jefferson start every game?
Posted on 2/6/11 at 5:56 pm to Gray Tiger
Posted on 2/6/11 at 5:56 pm to Gray Tiger
ah the obvious rebuttal.... forget the play on the field. you took what i said and twisted it into something else, then i make a coment towards it so you decide to run with it. i would expect nothing less from the rant.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 6:11 pm to tduecen
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he actually looked like a QB in that game
Meh. Their DB's were crummy enough that he could stare down his primary receiver like he always does and get away with it. And he still missed badly on several wide open, unhurried throws (ask RR).
Posted on 2/6/11 at 6:23 pm to Icansee4miles
quote:The DBs that held OU to 19, Huskers to 6, TU to 17?
Their DB's were crummy enough

Your hate knows no bounds.
This post was edited on 2/6/11 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 2/6/11 at 6:34 pm to bencoleman
Doesn't matter. JJ WILL star every game and be All Confrence.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 6:42 pm to Gray Tiger
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Honestly do you think that people like lithium, maximus and several others will ever stop their criticism of JJ?
Vs you and others who think JJ is the best QB ever to play? JJ has had three years and isn't the answer.
Posted on 2/7/11 at 12:38 am to tduecen
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All he has to do is look like Greg McElroy
You mean the Greg McElroy who joined Bama in 06 as a RS, played in 07 and 08, and started in 09 after 3 years in the Bama program?
That's who you want him to look like in his 1st season in the LSU program?
No, some don't expect much from the guy.

Hey, while we wishing here, I would rather he play like Cam.

Posted on 2/7/11 at 6:11 am to Lonnie4LSU
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after 3 years in the Bama program?
Remind me how many years JJ has been in our system? And how many games he has started? And somehow, he still stinks. Ah yes, but he's only (insert age excuse here)
As to the aTm DB comment I made earlier-go back and rewatch the game. They played us straight up, and our receivers, TT in particular, beat them like a drum in single coverage. SO...JJ could stare away, and they still couldn't stop us. Against SEC DB's, staring down one receiver obviously didn't work so well(which is why he almost doubled his season TD pass total in the one game).
ZM doesn't have to light it up-just some semblance of competency out of the position will make this offense go.
Posted on 2/7/11 at 7:43 am to Gray Tiger
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And he is to be judged by facial expression? His facial expression is of no consequence.
I would agree to an extent. But, when he looks at the sideline, looks at his wrist playbook, looks at the sideline, looks at the players on defense, looks at his wrist playbook again all while the play clock is expiring, he isn't calling for the snap or a timeout, and looking really confused as the clock expires and we lose a game, I think you can assume he's confused.
Now, if he had that same stupid look on his face during the Cotton Bowl, you could chalk it up to Reuben Randle one face syndrome. But, that wasn't the case, and you know it.
Posted on 2/7/11 at 8:07 am to Icansee4miles
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Remind me how many years JJ has been in our system?
The context was suggesting Mett in his 1st season in the program only had to look like a Bama QB looked in his 3rd year in program.

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As to the aTm DB comment I made earlier-go back and rewatch the game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah...I get your point. It was a piece of cake for JJ to have a QB rating of 165 and account for 4 TDS and lead an offense which controlled the clock for a quarter more than NR A&M playing in their home state. Any Jr Hi QB could have done that...right.

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ZM doesn't have to light it up-just some semblance of competency out of the position will make this offense go.
Right, all he has to do is walk green and snapless into a Top 8 ranked program and in his 1st game ever in FBS play direct LSU in a national TV game vs a team who played in the BCSCG.

Look, might that happen....who knows. Some have better tools and pick stuff up quicker than others, but to have those type of expectations before the guy takes his 1st snap in a practice setting is more than a little unreasonable but this is the Rant.

Posted on 2/7/11 at 12:58 pm to Lonnie4LSU
quote:I am not sure why people continue to say this, the dude played last year at a decent level. Was it in the SEC no, however he was playing he was participating, he was running a system last year. That to me means more than a guy who goes to practice and runs the scout team and then becomes the starter.
all he has to do is walk green and snapless
Hell would David Greene, Herb Tyler, Jay Cutler, Erik Ainge be better examples of players who stepped right in and played with less experience than Mett? Hell I would even take what he did over what Snead did prior to enrolling at Ole Miss (49 attempt) the dude is starting fresh in a new system like Jefferson and Lee.... He has played a high level of competition than a RS or true Freshman, and if he can come in an play better and open up the offense then he deserves to be.
Of course you are focused on McElroy and you want to act like he did something spectacular in 08. No he was guarded like any new QB should and Alabama used the run to set up the pass then called passes that were safe. Unless you firmly believe that asking a QB to complete 60% of his passes and average 175-200 yards a game is too much. Of course you can say "wins is all that matter" however you know full well that a better offense and the LSU defense/special teams last year and LSU is in the SEC Championship and possibly the Sugar Bowl over the Cotton Bowl.
Posted on 2/7/11 at 1:14 pm to tduecen
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however you know full well that a better offense and the LSU defense/special teams last year and LSU is in the SEC Championship and possibly the Sugar Bowl over the Cotton Bowl.
two routes by the LSU DB led to the Arky win, and the Sugar Bowl was lost.
it had nothing to do with the offense. the vaunted D lost the Ark game in pass defense.
Posted on 2/7/11 at 1:24 pm to ottothewise
and the offense could not finish drives...
That offense in the second half
8 plays 17 Yards FG
4 plays 6 yards FG
3 plays 3 yards punt
3 plays 7 yards punt
11 plays 43 yards FG
2 plays -11 yards fumble
Considering after the 2 short field goals which the defense and special teams set up the offense could not move the ball for a touchdown not once. Defense played it's worse game of the season and the offense could not help it out, which still points to a struggling and pathetic offense.
That offense in the second half
8 plays 17 Yards FG
4 plays 6 yards FG
3 plays 3 yards punt
3 plays 7 yards punt
11 plays 43 yards FG
2 plays -11 yards fumble
Considering after the 2 short field goals which the defense and special teams set up the offense could not move the ball for a touchdown not once. Defense played it's worse game of the season and the offense could not help it out, which still points to a struggling and pathetic offense.
Posted on 2/7/11 at 2:32 pm to tduecen
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the dude played last year at a decent level
With all due respect to Juco ball, the difference between it and SEC/big time college football is like day is to night. imo
I think there is a lot to be said for facing off with the likes of a Bama or a Florida or a NC or a Penn St or a Tex A&M that gives those who have a big time advantage over those who haven't, but we will see.
Whatever makes LSU a better team or a more successful team works for me.
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Of course you are focused on McElroy
You mentioned McElroy 1st...not me.
All I said was that Mc had 3 years in the Bama program before he became a starter and not one spring and fall as Mett will have if he were to start. I see that as a major difference between what the expectation level should be, but each to our own.

Posted on 2/7/11 at 3:19 pm to Lonnie4LSU
quote:And him playing JUCO is an advantage over sitting on the scout team or only seeing 20-40 snaps in mop up duty. If he was coming into a system that was already in place then of course Jefferson would be heads and shoulders the favorite however coming into a new system he has just as good a shot and I believe he will win it.
With all due respect to Juco ball, the difference between it and SEC/big time college football is like day is to night. imo
Posted on 2/7/11 at 3:22 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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Yeah, yeah, yeah...I get your point. It was a piece of cake for JJ to have a QB rating of 165 and account for 4 TDS
i feel fairly confident that jj had 4 or 5 games during the regular season that all together didn't add up to a qb rating of 165. and yeah, he threw 4 td's , during the WHOLE season
Posted on 2/7/11 at 4:27 pm to CatsGoneWild
Yes! If the new OC can speed up his dropback, speed up his delivery, speed up his decision making, teach him how to read defenses, and teach him how to run play action. Yes I think he'll start every game.
Posted on 2/7/11 at 6:34 pm to tduecen
The defense and special teams were good for most of the season but they completely shot the bed the last 3-4 games.
The S/T were fairly awful the last quarter of the year
The S/T were fairly awful the last quarter of the year
Posted on 2/7/11 at 10:06 pm to tduecen
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he has just as good a shot
You kidding...right?
Odds would be bout 5-1, if not higher, on the 2 year starter opening the season new OC or not.
But who cares who starts as long as LSU wins.

Posted on 2/7/11 at 10:11 pm to cheeser
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i feel fairly confident that jj had 4 or 5 games during the regular season
Thing is...we talkin' Cotton Bowl and as I recall, it was 165.

Posted on 2/8/11 at 5:53 am to km
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If the new OC can speed up his dropback, speed up his delivery, speed up his decision making, teach him how to read defenses, and teach him how to run play action.
See? Only a few minor deficiencies to work on and he might be a serviceable QB.
ETA: don't forget develop some semblance of a pocket presence and learn not to throw the ball at the receiver's feet when they are wide open
This post was edited on 2/8/11 at 5:54 am
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