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re: Will Blackwell on Les Miles

Posted on 1/25/12 at 11:56 am to
Posted by TiegerTim
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Posted on 1/25/12 at 11:56 am to
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I don't think that Jefferson was choking
i don't thin JJ was choking either.. i think he was playing like... well like JJ does...
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Second, there were a lot of players on the offense who were not executing well in the first half.
yank their butts...
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That doesn't mean that you yank them.
oh, ok...
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Third, the fact that players were not executing well in the first half did not mean that they would not execute well in the second half.
BUT, when you get through the 3rd quarter and they're still not performing good.. you have to do something.
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Fourth, the fact that one player is not executing well does not mean that his backup will execute better
doesn't mean he won't
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Changing a player does not change the opponent Bama to NWSU.
but leaving the same player in to run the same plays is doing the same things over and over and expecting different results...
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Jefferson had better passing numbers in the regular season. Jefferson had infinitely better rushing numbers. The offense performed better when Jefferson was the QB in the regular season.
WOW... ok, pull the stats, but you cant honestly tell me that the offense looked better the last 6 games of the year than it did the first 8?? come on!! did you watch GA & BAMA2??
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Jefferson plays much better against Alabama than Lee.
in BAMA1, we probably would not have won without JJ i agree.. but in BAMA2 we were not going to win with him. TRY SOMETHING ELSE!!!
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 11:59 am to
Just me, that's one of the most ignorant posts I have seen on here in a couple days. I would post a rebuttal, but I try not argue with idiots. They usually drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37741 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:01 pm to
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Jefferson had better passing numbers in the regular season. Jefferson had infinitely better rushing numbers. The offense performed better when Jefferson was the QB in the regular season.
WOW... ok, pull the stats, but you cant honestly tell me that the offense looked better the last 6 games of the year than it did the first 8?? come on!! did you watch GA & BAMA2??



He said regular season. UGA and Bama2 were post season. During the last 3 regular season games which were JJs only regular season starts we went for over 450 yards of offense in each game which had only happened once in the previous nine. JJ went for over 160 passing twice in 3 games which had only happened twice in the 9 games prior to JJ starting. JJ looked very good in the 3 regular season starts.
I do agree he choked in the NC game though.
This post was edited on 1/25/12 at 12:02 pm
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3097 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:01 pm to
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The offense performed better when Jefferson was the QB in the regular season
oooo, i see what you did there...

cherry picking your stats..
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:02 pm to
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Poor execution against an elite defense.


Over and over and over?

What kind of defense did WKU have?
Posted by That One
Northern Virginia
Member since Jul 2004
6092 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:03 pm to
Good lord...are you guys going to slice and dice things to this level for losing ONE freaking game? Agreed it was the national championship game. Still...
Whatever Miles did worked for 13 games and he stuck to his plan. I don't see anything wrong with it!
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:04 pm to
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Man stated JJ was choking and you replied fair assesment.
No. You're wrong. He said this:
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Jefferson was choking horribly, the OL sucked also contributing to Jefferson sucking (false starts, blown blocks), Les not putting Lee in when it was obvious that JJ was fried. Add that to an elite Bama D and a QB/OC that executed well on the other side and you've got the prison rape that we all witnessed.
There are many statements in that paragraph with which I agree; however, I don't agree with all of the statements. Thus, I said it was a "pretty fair" assessment. I did not say it was prefect, spot on, or completely fair. It was just pretty fair.



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JJ had better passing numbers on the season
Say fricking what?
Again, you try to put words in my mouth.

However, this time, you intentionally misquote me. You truly are an unethical fricktard, aren't you.

This is what I said:
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Jefferson had better passing numbers in the regular season.
That's a fact. Jefferson had better passing numbers in the regular season. Look them up.
Posted by fastedLSU
BR
Member since Sep 2007
4477 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:04 pm to
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He said regular season. UGA and Bama2 were post season. During the last 3 regular season games which were JJs only regular season starts we went for over 450 yards of offense in each game which had only happened once in the previous nine. JJ went for over 160 passing twice in 3 games which had only happened twice in the 9 games prior to JJ starting. JJ looked very good in the 3 regular season starts


But c'mon. Thats like saying Lee had better stats than JJ in the first 9 games. He obviously did, bc JJ didnt play. After Bama1 same can be said for Lee.

Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:05 pm to
he only threw the ball 14 times agains WKU. im not defending him....im just not seeing your point.


ETA: how did a thread about Blackwell get twisted into this shite again?

you sneaky bastards
This post was edited on 1/25/12 at 12:07 pm
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3097 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:05 pm to
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JJ went for over 160 passing twice in 3 games
but in his last two combined he didn't get to 100...
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:07 pm to
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but in his last two combined he didn't get to 100...

No worries. Your dream came true...he won't be in the next game.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:07 pm to
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Whatever Miles did worked for 13 games and he stuck to his plan. I don't see anything wrong with it!


Did jarrett lee not start the first 8?
Posted by Tokyeaux
Member since Dec 2006
621 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:08 pm to
where there's smoke....
Posted by fastedLSU
BR
Member since Sep 2007
4477 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:08 pm to
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That's a fact. Jefferson had better passing numbers in the regular season. Look them up.


First off my quotes werent intended to misquote you.

Fair assessment, pretty fair assesssment.
On the regular season, in the regular season.
What the frick ever.


Lee has more yards (obviously), better completeing %, more yards per completion, more TDs.

What stats are you referring to?
This post was edited on 1/25/12 at 12:10 pm
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3097 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:08 pm to
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he won't be in the next game.
hell, who knows. he might come back next year as the QB coach.. take Billy G's place on the coaching staff...
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:11 pm to
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oooo, i see what you did there...

cherry picking your stats..
Some of you have real difficulty understanding what is and what isn't cherry picking.

Do you honestly believe that Lee would have exceeded his regular season numbers in the SEC-CG and the BCS-CG?

If you don't, then Jefferson would have had better numbers for the combined regular season and post-season.

If you do, then you're just delusional.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37741 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:11 pm to
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but in his last two combined he didn't get to 100...


This was a major problem....I did not deny that he played poorly in against UGA and Bama. However to make a blanket statement as you and many other people did that he played terrible all season is false. I wanted Lee in both of those games and frankly I wanted him to play post nov 5th. However going into the SECCG it looked like Les had made the right decision based off offensive production.
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:12 pm to
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where there's smoke....
..someone's been tokin'

....but more likely that some people just can't let go, can't move on. frick'em. Let'em live their life looking in the rear view mirror.
Posted by fastedLSU
BR
Member since Sep 2007
4477 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:13 pm to
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If you don't, then Jefferson would have had better numbers for the combined regular season and post-season


2010 begs to differ. Cold hard facts.


Im confused, are you saying JJ would have had better numbers than Lee had he started every game?
This post was edited on 1/25/12 at 12:15 pm
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3097 posts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 12:13 pm to
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Do you honestly believe that Lee would have exceeded his regular season numbers in the SEC-CG and the BCS-CG?
i believe he would have performed better than JJ.. hell, i believe he would have thrown for 8 tds no pics and 600 yards in the two games...
that makes as much sense as....
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then Jefferson would have had better numbers for the combined regular season and post-season.
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you're just delusional.
touche'
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