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re: Will another 4 or 5 loss season get Jimbo crossed-off Woodward' s future HC wish-list?

Posted on 4/21/19 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48067 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 1:51 pm to
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Let's put THAT in context. I was a fan of Aleva for having the vision to hire Orgeron. May be the best hire in the SEC since Saban. 


O isnt even the most important person on his own staff. Good god you're ate up with the dumbass.
Posted by tigerfan0082
Member since Oct 2011
701 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 1:53 pm to
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tigerfan0082, who's alter are you? 300 posts since 2011? LOL


No alter, just don’t post a lot, but I do laugh at the morons like you who love when LSU fails so we can start a “fire the coach” thread.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28342 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 1:57 pm to
I’ve grown tired of the Orgeron debates. I didn’t like the hire, but what’s done is done and Orgeron has the job. He has done a good job, not great job, in his first two years. I expect, as I’m sure Orgeron does, great things going forward now that this is without question his program to drive into the future.

Orgeron will do well, very well, going forward. And if for some reason he doesn’t, we will move on to the next leader of LSU football. The expectations are what they are and are widely known, whether it be Miles or Orgeron or whoever is at the helm.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 1:59 pm to
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No alter, just don’t post a lot, but I do laugh at the morons like you who love when LSU fails so we can start a “fire the coach” thread.

1) LSU isn't failing. AP #6 in the country in '18.
2) I'm a strong supporter of O. This post is in contrast to those O-haters who want O fired if LSU loses 3 games in '19.
i.e., if 3 losses DQ's O. why wouldn't 3 losses DQ Jimbo (the O-haters Golden Boy)
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48067 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 1:59 pm to
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I’ve grown tired of the Orgeron debates. I didn’t like the hire, but what’s done is done and Orgeron has the job. He has done a good job,


Then miles was doing a good job when he was fired.
Win loss season numbers are the same with O having less productive offense than milss last full year.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48067 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:00 pm to
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LSU isn't failing. AP #6 in the country in '19. 
2) I'm a strong supporter of O. This post is in contrast to those O-haters who want O fired if LSU loses 3 games in '19. 
i.e., if 3 losses DQ's O. why wouldn't 3 losses DQ Jimbo (the O-haters Golden Boy)


The pinnacle of jimbo's HC career isnt 3 losses and 5th place in the sec(using tie breakers that actually exist)
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:01 pm to
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AP #6 in the country in '18.

That’s great, surely it translated to a top ranking in the SEC West, right?
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:01 pm to
So you think O should be retained as HC if he shows that 9-3 is his ceiling? If he can’t do better than that with the way this year is set up, he never will.

Idiot. At least you admit you move the goalposts for him. 9-3 average wasn’t good enough to keep Les. It should never be good enough at LSU.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48067 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:06 pm to
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you think O should be retained as HC if he shows that 9-3 is his ceiling? If he can’t do better than that with the way this year is set up, he never will. 

Idiot. At least you admit you move the goalposts for him. 9-3 wasn’t good enough to keep Les.


Anyone that says the goalposts havent been moved for O is either stupid or an outright liar.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:09 pm to
They’re immovable this year given what O has at his disposal and how long he’s been in charge. 11 wins or the season is a colossal failure.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7950 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:09 pm to
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Anyone with eyes can see that the O-Haters have been pimping extra hard against O since Woodward took over.


I hate O with a passion. I think he’s a horrible human being that only cares about Ed Ogeron. There is nothing in his past that would make me believe he would be a good head coach.

Now with that said...I’m hopeful and optimistic about the 2019 season and want us to win the National Championship. But I’ll still hate Shrimp Boat Captain.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 2:11 pm
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:10 pm to
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Anyone that says the goalposts havent been moved for O is either stupid or an outright liar.


Honestly this is the biggest reason I hated the hire. I knew that he could end up worse than Les and the idiots would make excuses for him like they never did before for a coach.

He may end up being an improvement, but this year will tell all. And there’s at least one poster here who already admits he will make excuses for O if he goes 9-3 again. I’m sure there are plenty of others.

The greatest thing, though, is that Alleva is gone and Woodward won’t have excuses. Hopefully we destroy teams this year en route to a NC and the discussion won’t even be needed.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 2:14 pm
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:11 pm to
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I’ve grown tired of the Orgeron debates. I didn’t like the hire, but what’s done is done and Orgeron has the job. He has done a good job, not great job, in his first two years. I expect, as I’m sure Orgeron does, great things going forward now that this is without question his program to drive into the future.

Orgeron will do well, very well, going forward. And if for some reason he doesn’t, we will move on to the next leader of LSU football. The expectations are what they are and are widely known, whether it be Miles or Orgeron or whoever is at the helm



This is a good post. O is a good motivator and the kids like to play for him. Things are looking good.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:15 pm to
“ after he loses 5 games”

Why don’t we wait to find ways to piss on Jimbo after Coach O has found a way to beat him and after Texas A&M is ranked lower than us in the west.

Until that time, most of this anti-Jimbo stuff seems little more than sour grapes.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:19 pm to
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It’s funny how the Rant wants to give Jimbo a pass in year two for a tough schedule, but said no excuses were acceptable in year two for Orgeron one year ago.


A&M's 2019 schedule looks to be pretty tough, just like LSU's 2018 schedule looked. However, Miami and Auburn turned out to be overrated before the 2018 season started, therefore, last season's schedule wasn't as daunting as was anticipated.

Perhaps the same thing will happen with A&M's schedule this coming season.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:20 pm to
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O isnt even the most important person on his own staff.
Nor should he be (except at CEO). Any confident CEO fills key positions with talent that exceeds their own in assignments that require an exceptional and specific depth-of-knowledge.

Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:21 pm to
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an exceptional and specific depth-of-knowledge.

Exactly, like with E at OC
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:24 pm to
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an exceptional and specific depth-of-knowledge.

Exactly, like with E at OC


I promise that he knows more than you.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:27 pm to
I’d hope so if he’s the OC of a top SEC football program
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:27 pm to
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Exactly, like with E at OC
Exactly. E is working with Brady to install the RPO/Spread. A lot of crusty old OCs would make a gopher out of a 28 year-old assistant coach (and keep running their same old shite). E is adapting like a boss.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 2:29 pm
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