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re: Why isn't Randle playing?!?!?!?!

Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by flucobaseball
VA
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:07 pm to
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My beef is why can Julio and Barkley play and Randle can't?

Some people come out of high school more prepared physically and mentally. Some are forced to to sit because of players in front of them.
Posted by TGHub
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
2261 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:08 pm to
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developing freshman early


This is almost an oxymoron. When freshman come in they are basically the same player they were in high school. It would be difficult to "develop" any freshman early unless they were already ready to play immediately, then that's still not development.

Now if they start playing well later in their freshman yr or beginning of sophomore year, then you see how their college coaches have developed them. Does this make sense?
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
20475 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:08 pm to
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My beef is why can Julio and Barkley play and Randle can't?


Neither of them had a ton of talent ahead of them like Randle has. Randle is still learning and he will have to work hard to earn his position. Why is that so hard to understand?
This post was edited on 9/17/09 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28033 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:10 pm to
It isn't hard to understand, as it happens all the time, but i can't imagine the offense being that much more complicated than high school. Randle played both qb and wr, so he knows a lot more than most to begin with.

Also, have seen him out there quite a bit, but just not being thrown the ball. I don't think they are doing double teams on Randle, but most likely Lafall and Tolliver.

This post was edited on 9/17/09 at 12:12 pm
Posted by ViNSANE
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
380 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:11 pm to
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Some of you are un-fricking-believable


What I mean't by rueben learning 3 plays is this.

1. Rueben was a QB in high school right. He would be great player to use when running the reverse and pass to Lafell.

2. He would be great to use with the wide receiver screen because he can juke also and the shut down corners will be on Lafell or Tolliver.

3. Short route as in maybe the redzone. He got hops. He is a threat in redzone.
Posted by AP83
Cottonport
Member since Sep 2009
2871 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:14 pm to
In HS randle mostly played QB so he pretty much ran something like this. Snap the ball to randle and run veer left, veer right, or make your own running play b/c you are a better athlete than most hs players and can get away with a busted play. When he played receiver a qb came in and it pretty much went like this. Find reuben and get him the ball because he is better than most hs athletes. It does not work like that when you get to LSU. There is a lot more strategy that goes into it and when you make a mistake in college it shows up alot more than it does in HS football. In HS if you have speed and can juke you can get away from most defenders. In the SEC almost everyone can do this. Give the guy a year and he will probably be a great receiver at LSU. IF Les does not think he is ready so be it we have all the receiver we need right now.
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
Member since Jun 2008
17501 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:18 pm to
He has been playing, just not had any balls thrown his way. I agree with the sentiment though. Problem with LSU is we have too many horses and just one ball. LaFell, Tolliver, Keiland, CS, RS, RR all need the rock more.
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:24 pm to
This thread made me die a little on the inside. We truly have some idiot fans around here. Why would you put someone on the field that didn't know their assignment? Maybe he's not getting thrown to because he's not where he's spose to be. And yes, rj is better then rr right now and if you can't understand why then just shoot yourself.
Posted by Duck
Member since Dec 2006
361 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:35 pm to
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What freshman can you remember that les has given a significant shot to contribute early on ?


Josh Downs thinks you are a moron.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:35 pm to


Ouch.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12985 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:41 pm to
You are right, he was in several plays against Vandy, late in the game. For the uninformed, LSU is in the process of developing a just turned 19 quarterback. Two quality opponents, one 2,000 miles away on a very hostile field and the other in a driving rain at home. The down field passing game is a work in progress. What does that have to do with RR? Give it a few more games and we will hopefully see an improvement in our passing offense which will benefit the entire receiving corpse. While Jordan J. has been efficient, he has not set the world on fire with a lot of yardage. If not for the yards after the catch, his numbers would be dismal.
Posted by HITMAN202
natchez mississippi
Member since Apr 2008
872 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:46 pm to
Even if we had an experienced QB, even if RR knew the playbook, if a 4 year senior is playing well the frosh will not get reps in practice. Forget about playing time. #28 has sweated his butt off for 4 years. Been in the system. Worked hard. RR will not see the time of day.
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
12091 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:50 pm to
We have a number of WRs who have put in their dues over the years and have earned a chance to play.

Jumping Randle ahead of these players is not right. Randle will get his chance, but not before he is ready.
Posted by AP83
Cottonport
Member since Sep 2009
2871 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:53 pm to
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Even if we had an experienced QB, even if RR knew the playbook, if a 4 year senior is playing well the frosh will not get reps in practice. Forget about playing time. #28 has sweated his butt off for 4 years. Been in the system. Worked hard. RR will not see the time of day.




This is the correct answer. IF a senior is even close to the freshmen in talent level and smarts the freshmen will never jump him and righfully so.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81872 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:55 pm to
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Randle has played QB in high school and has to learn to play WR.

clueless college geek, he played WR in high school as well
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89750 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:56 pm to
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It isn't hard to understand, as it happens all the time, but i can't imagine the offense being that much more complicated than high school. Randle played both qb and wr, so he knows a lot more than most to begin with.


wow

quote:

Also, have seen him out there quite a bit, but just not being thrown the ball. I don't think they are doing double teams on Randle, but most likely Lafall and Tolliver.


he has been in to block
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78493 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:59 pm to
Well yea

freshman never develop under les
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12723 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 12:59 pm to
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What freshman can you remember that les has given a significant shot to contribute early on ?
Keiland Williams, Ciron Black, Russell Shepard, Brandon LaFell, Richard Dickson, Chad Jones, Patrick Peterson, Josh Downs . . . just to name a few.

Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81872 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 1:00 pm to
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What freshman can you remember that les has given a significant shot to contribute early on ?

Ciron Black
Patrick Peterson
Mitch Joseph
Jarrett Lee
Jordan Jefferson
Brandon Taylor
Keiland Williams
Brandon Lafell
Chad Jones
Richard Dugas this year
Russell Shepard looks to be a good possibility
This post was edited on 9/17/09 at 1:01 pm
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28033 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 1:05 pm to
Like I said, I am not a coach, but just thought he could see some bubble screens, etc. Guess not.
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